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re: LOST: The Final Season™ Ep. 8 "Recon"
Posted on 3/18/10 at 9:39 am to colorchangintiger
Posted on 3/18/10 at 9:39 am to colorchangintiger
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I thought about this as well. When Zombie Locke told Kate that his mother was crazy, I figured the mom would be a character that we've already been introduced to, which pointed me to Faraday. There is something that blows this out of the water though. Sawyer asked Zombie Locke if he read Of Mice and Men and Zombie Locke told him it was before his time...which leads me to believe that the MiB is 100s if not 1000s of years old.
yeah i thought the story was more to further or set up a plot point btwn kate and claire than background of the MIB.
i think the MIB is the same MIB that watched the black rock come in with jacob in last season's finale. unless of course he's saying that faraday traveled back a couple hundred yrs to get trapped as the smoke monster. but i think that's pushing it.
Posted on 3/18/10 at 10:10 am to TDTGodfather
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i think the MIB is the same MIB that watched the black rock come in with jacob in last season's finale.
Something just hit me, excuse my mental lapse...
The ship is called "Black Rock" and there are black and white rocks all over the storyline....
Posted on 3/18/10 at 10:18 am to coloradoBengal
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The ship is called "Black Rock" and there are black and white rocks all over the storyline....
Yep and the oceanic plane was white...
This post was edited on 3/18/10 at 10:20 am
Posted on 3/18/10 at 11:35 am to vorenus23
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MIB is actually Daniel Faraday.
wow, get that dude to start posting here, he fits right in
but he's wrong, because we all know already that MIB is Wallace
Posted on 3/18/10 at 12:46 pm to coloradoBengal
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He wasn't. He never spoke to Jacob. Not once. And it would seem that he was claimed by the MIB and turned evil long ago.
Why he was still the leader of the others, I don't know. The others, it would seem have not always been aligned with Jacob. Why would Jacob purge the Darma Initiative? Why would Ben have knowledge of summoning and using the black smoke monster to his own need?
I've been thinking something similar to this for a while. I think Ben may have been following MIB since his dip in the temple pool as a kid. Richard told Kate that Ben would never be the same.
Miles told Ben that Jacob had hoped he would change, right up to the point where Ben stabbed him. Perhaps he knew Ben was MIB's guy, but he wanted to change him because he knew Ben was a good guy before being infected. After all, Ben is a caring guy in the alternate timeline.
As stated before, Ben knew how to call Smokie when he needed him. Smokie even came to Ben's rescue in the most recent episode when Ben was digging his own grave.
Ben went to Smokie, and not Jacob for judgment.
As stated earlier, it would make more sense that MIB ordered the purge, as this doesn't seem like something Jacob would have done.
Ben killed John Locke and made sure he was on the plane. MIB needed this to happen to pull his mutiny.
It seems lately that Ben is a whipped little puppy, but we know Ben is the ultimate liar and manipulator. MIB told Sawyer that he was the best liar he ever knew, but I'd give that title to Ben. I have a feeling that Ben is still much more in control than it appears.
Perhaps Ben was a true follower of Jacob and Ben needed him out of the way so that he could be leader and the Others would unknowingly follow MIB.
I wonder if Ben is the only leader of the others who never spoke to Jacob. I also can't remember if Richard knew Ben couldn't see Jacob.
I wouldn't be surprised if Ben sabotages team Jacob and/or quickly joins or rejoins MIB when the real battle begins.
I'm not saying that I 100% think this is all accurate, but there is enough circumstantial evidence to at least make it a possibility.
Posted on 3/18/10 at 1:35 pm to Uncle Stu
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because we all know already that MIB is Wallace
+1
Posted on 3/18/10 at 1:36 pm to Maximus
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who the frick is wallace
Wallace is the key to the whole thing man
Posted on 3/18/10 at 1:42 pm to Maximus
Max if you don't know who Wallace is then I can't help you. Don't be coming on this thread with SERIOUS Lost fans who know every episode by heart and asking newb questions. Go back and watch the show.
Posted on 3/18/10 at 1:42 pm to The Godfather
the only wallace i know got shot by Bodie
Posted on 3/18/10 at 2:22 pm to Maximus
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the only wallace i know got shot by Bodie
R.I.P.
the game's the game
Posted on 3/18/10 at 2:47 pm to Uncle Stu
Btw, I don't know if this has been discussed yet, but what kind of official police sting involves a police officer having sex with a married woman to get information 
Posted on 3/18/10 at 2:52 pm to lsumatt
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Btw, I don't know if this has been discussed yet, but what kind of official police sting involves a police officer having sex with a married woman to get information
The best kind
Posted on 3/18/10 at 3:56 pm to lsumatt
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Btw, I don't know if this has been discussed yet, but what kind of official police sting involves a police officer having sex with a married woman to get information
fricking Sawyer's kind yo. All he does his smash bitches
Posted on 3/18/10 at 4:02 pm to guedeaux
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fricking Sawyer's kind yo. All he does his smash bitches
You just know that guys out in the van were like, "That motherfricker gets all the strange."
This post was edited on 3/18/10 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 3/18/10 at 4:04 pm to coloradoBengal
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You just know that guys out in the van were like, "fap fap fap That motherfricker fap fap fap gets all the strange fap fap fap."
FIFY
Posted on 3/18/10 at 6:11 pm to sgallo3
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so we learned whitmore isnt working with MIB like everyone thought last week lol
Widmore and MIB may be conning Sawyer. This isn't confirmation that they aren't aligned. Widmore seemed very determined that Locke returned to the Island in some way, so I still think they are aligned, Widmore just doesn't trust MIB fully which is why he is setting up the fences.
Posted on 3/18/10 at 6:22 pm to OMLandshark
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Widmore and MIB may be conning Sawyer.
This is what I said. They would both have to be fricking stupid to trust him.
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