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re: LOST "The End" S6.E17&18
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:12 am to Tiger Ryno
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:12 am to Tiger Ryno
I thought the film editing at the end was incredible. I had to rewatch it on Hulu.
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Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:14 am to Freauxzen
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The writers took some choices to "create" debate. It was a cheap, manipulative way to keep people talking and weakens the experience. But that has been the whole show. All of the red herrings really cheapened, at least for me, what could have been something great. That's what disappoints me the most.
I Kige every word of this. The Lost Sheep will blindly overlook it all though and tell you to GTFO.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:20 am to Tiger Ryno
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The Lost Sheep will blindly overlook it all though and tell you to GTFO.
I wouldn't call them sheep, they are just able to ignore specific things that people, like Myth and I and yourself, cannot.
Overall, I like the show. Contrary to popular belief, I have ALWAYS liked the show. But I think it could have been great. It could have been the greatest show of all-time. It could have had a great mythology. It could have been a story that did the rare thing, in modern times, and go after a universal truth. But it isn't.
Take out all the excess, all the unnecessary plots, all the unnecessary characters, all that information, all the manipulation and games that they played, and at the core, it does have a good message.
It's buried under mountains of crap though, including the final shot of the plane crash. That's what keeps it from being great. What could have been a modern myth, through this generation's most important medium, ends up wasted. That's what is sad.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:21 am to Croacka
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when jack got stabbed, i told my wife the series would end with him lying down in the forest and his eye closing
was this too predictable, or did I luck out and get it right?
I said the same thing last night. I thought that would be a pretty fitting close to the series, since the whole "eye-opening" thing (with Jack) has been so prominent.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:23 am to Freauxzen
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But the plane crash at the end makes me think otherwise.
I didn't see that as a plane crash. I just figured that was Lapidus et all flying off the island.
I thought the crash site at the end was just kinda showing the original sites of the first season in more of a sentimental way.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:26 am to CocomoLSU
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I didn't see that as a plane crash. I just figured that was Lapidus et all flying off the island. I thought the crash site at the end was just kinda showing the original sites of the first season in more of a sentimental way
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:27 am to CocomoLSU
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I thought the crash site at the end was just kinda showing the original sites of the first season in more of a sentimental way.
And it can be read that way.
But there is enough evidence to read it the other, which is the whole problem.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:28 am to TigerMyth36
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I love that statement. A show full of impossible things and you say something is not feasible.
It was point blank stated it was real.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:28 am to Freauxzen
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Overall, I like the show. Contrary to popular belief, I have ALWAYS liked the show. But I think it could have been great. It could have been the greatest show of all-time. It could have had a great mythology. It could have been a story that did the rare thing, in modern times, and go after a universal truth. But it isn't.
Take out all the excess, all the unnecessary plots, all the unnecessary characters, all that information, all the manipulation and games that they played, and at the core, it does have a good message.
It's buried under mountains of crap though, including the final shot of the plane crash. That's what keeps it from being great. What could have been a modern myth, through this generation's most important medium, ends up wasted. That's what is sad.
I agree with all of this
I think most were just getting annoyed by SFP's extreme, smug douchiness in this entire thread.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:30 am to CocomoLSU
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I didn't see that as a plane crash. I just figured that was Lapidus et all flying off the island.
I thought the crash site at the end was just kinda showing the original sites of the first season in more of a sentimental way.
this is the way it took it, after they showed the plane, they showed Jack smile, like he knew they got off the island and then he closed his eyes
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:31 am to Salmon
Regardless of how the "series ended," I thought last night's episode was one of the best, if not the best, ever - with one exception. That scene where Freckles convinced Claire to go a long was - idk. I guess Kate is the most persuasive person ever. that shite happened fast.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:41 am to baybeefeetz
Christian point blank said the island was all real and everyone died at somepoint but some sooner than others
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:46 am to Chuck U Farley
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1 So Jack was in purgatory for 15 years before he decided he was ready? His son was 15 in alt world.
I think purgatory technically started on the plane.
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2 Selection of people at the church was weird, Sawyer left on the plane. He died after the Island?
Everyone dies eventually. Ben and Hurley were immortal and likely died thousands of years later. Time is meaningless in the afterlife.
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3 Wonder what Richard thought of the new world?
Richard has been to the new world before, si he'll be able to adapt fine.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:49 am to Freauxzen
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But there is enough evidence to read it the other, which is the whole problem.
Such as..?
To me, it was pretty clear cut that it was a plane leaving the island (it was aiming upwards, no?). But I'd love to hear an argument opposing that though.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:49 am to TigerMyth36
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Furthermore, you guys are basing the whole island being real based on Christian stating "most important time of your lives."
You are basing your understanding of the ending based on one phrase from Christian.
He said like 3 sentences on it, and whenever he has the show's last words, you probably take his word for it.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:49 am to baybeefeetz
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That scene where Freckles convinced Claire to go a long was - idk. I guess Kate is the most persuasive person ever. that shite happened fast.
Yeah, that scene seemed out of a place a little bit.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:52 am to TigerMyth36
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If they died on the plane, it makes complete sense that Aaron would still be a baby in the waiting room/Church.
Ji Yeon (who Sun is pregnant with in the afterlife) was conceived on the Island though.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:55 am to CocomoLSU
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To me, it was pretty clear cut that it was a plane leaving the island (it was aiming upwards, no?). But I'd love to hear an argument opposing that though.
i just went back and looked at it on hulu and it was going upward and its hard to tell but if you pause it you can kind of tell that it has the folded up wings of the Ajira plane that they were in. Jack was clearly happy/relieved when he saw that plane and he let go and died, knowing that his friends made it off the island.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:55 am to OMLandshark
TigerMyth = Bleeding Vag
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:56 am to CocomoLSU
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To me, it was pretty clear cut that it was a plane leaving the island (it was aiming upwards, no?). But I'd love to hear an argument opposing that though.
Yeah there is no doubt that's what it was.
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