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re: LOST "The End" S6.E17&18
Posted on 5/24/10 at 7:43 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/24/10 at 7:43 am to SlowFlowPro
Okay, so I'm about to try to catch up on this beast of a thread (thankfully, the show actually starts on about page 17 though, so I'll start there).
My quick thoughts on it are that I liked the ending and thought it was a decent end to the show. I saw someone in one of the threads sum it up pretty well...it was a good end to a show that was pretty impossible to end well (for everyone). Sure, there are some questions left, but I stopped pining got answers to shite a while back, and it's become more enjoyable to me since I did.
Overall, based on this thread (since I haven't read it yet), what is the general opinion of the end of the series? I'm sure people like SFP (since I did read your last post) and Freauxzen hated it. OML? Not sure. Lacour seemed to hate it in another thread. Etc.
Overall, was it good or bad..?
ETA: from SFP in another thread:
I agree. About halfway through the show last night, I told my buddy "It would be funny if it really IS Purgatory, since they've denied up and down that it is.." And he said "What if the alternate timeline is Purgatory..?" And that ended up basically being correct.
But I kinda like that. I like that after all the bullshite, they ended it sort of how everyone originally expected them to anyway. Sure, it makes a lot of things throughout the show irrelevant to the overall story arc, but who cares. I find that an "along for the ride" approach to Lost makes it a lot more enjoyable for me that a nitpicking, prissy approach.
My quick thoughts on it are that I liked the ending and thought it was a decent end to the show. I saw someone in one of the threads sum it up pretty well...it was a good end to a show that was pretty impossible to end well (for everyone). Sure, there are some questions left, but I stopped pining got answers to shite a while back, and it's become more enjoyable to me since I did.
Overall, based on this thread (since I haven't read it yet), what is the general opinion of the end of the series? I'm sure people like SFP (since I did read your last post) and Freauxzen hated it. OML? Not sure. Lacour seemed to hate it in another thread. Etc.
Overall, was it good or bad..?
ETA: from SFP in another thread:
quote:
what is hilarious to me is the resolution (purgatory){ was denied over and over again by the creators, and due to the fans figuring this out, they changed the show not once, but twice (fricking up the narrative). yet how does it end? purgatory
I agree. About halfway through the show last night, I told my buddy "It would be funny if it really IS Purgatory, since they've denied up and down that it is.." And he said "What if the alternate timeline is Purgatory..?" And that ended up basically being correct.
But I kinda like that. I like that after all the bullshite, they ended it sort of how everyone originally expected them to anyway. Sure, it makes a lot of things throughout the show irrelevant to the overall story arc, but who cares. I find that an "along for the ride" approach to Lost makes it a lot more enjoyable for me that a nitpicking, prissy approach.
This post was edited on 5/24/10 at 7:48 am
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Posted on 5/24/10 at 7:45 am to CocomoLSU
i didn't hate it
i'm glad they ended it the way it was meant to end
it's just funny to me that they denied this for years, only to end it in this manner
and i truly believe that had they just not tried to trick us into thinking this wouldn't be the original ending, the narrative would have been a lot cleaner and better. they tried to avoid purgatory, fricking it up along the way, yet in the end it ends up being purgatory
to me that's funny
i'm glad they ended it the way it was meant to end
it's just funny to me that they denied this for years, only to end it in this manner
and i truly believe that had they just not tried to trick us into thinking this wouldn't be the original ending, the narrative would have been a lot cleaner and better. they tried to avoid purgatory, fricking it up along the way, yet in the end it ends up being purgatory
to me that's funny
Posted on 5/24/10 at 7:45 am to SlowFlowPro
just chiming in for the first time since the finale. I haven't really made head nor tails of it yet, and I imagine Cuse and Lindlhof haven't either.
I was thouroughly entertained during the finale and enjoyed it. However I'm dissapointed that so much of what we saw and were lead to believe was important over 6 seasons ultimately was just fodder to keep you on edge until next week's episode. They were victimized by a network that wanted them to continue the run. This should have been a 3-4 season show and it could have been truly great.
Based on what I saw I'm adjusting my previous Midichlorian Counts.
Here are the new Midi ratings:
1. Desmond. 400,000
2. Jack. 350,000
3. Hurley 300,000 *shocker*
4. Locke 200,000 *falls from the top spot*
5. Sawyer 100
6. Kate 3
7. Claire -11
I was thouroughly entertained during the finale and enjoyed it. However I'm dissapointed that so much of what we saw and were lead to believe was important over 6 seasons ultimately was just fodder to keep you on edge until next week's episode. They were victimized by a network that wanted them to continue the run. This should have been a 3-4 season show and it could have been truly great.
Based on what I saw I'm adjusting my previous Midichlorian Counts.
Here are the new Midi ratings:
1. Desmond. 400,000
2. Jack. 350,000
3. Hurley 300,000 *shocker*
4. Locke 200,000 *falls from the top spot*
5. Sawyer 100
6. Kate 3
7. Claire -11
Posted on 5/24/10 at 7:48 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
i'm glad they ended it the way it was meant to end
it's just funny to me that they denied this for years, only to end it in this manner
See my edit just now...
Posted on 5/24/10 at 7:54 am to CocomoLSU
ABC Morning Show declares just now that:
"As speculated for many years by fans, we found out that the characters were actually dead the whole time and experiencing purgatory."
"As speculated for many years by fans, we found out that the characters were actually dead the whole time and experiencing purgatory."
Posted on 5/24/10 at 7:55 am to Tiger Ryno
quote:
"As speculated for many years by fans, we found out that the characters were actually dead the whole time and experiencing purgatory."
This is incorrect, no?
Posted on 5/24/10 at 7:57 am to CocomoLSU
quote:
This is incorrect, no?
Most people believe so.
Matthew Fox said the island was real last night.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 7:57 am to CocomoLSU
quote:
This is incorrect, no?
to me it is
some say it depends how you interpret the view of the beach during the credits
i try to exclude that from evidence
Posted on 5/24/10 at 7:57 am to CocomoLSU
I've slept on it. Thought more about it. And I feel better about it. Still hard to wrap my brain around it all.
Vincent
If someone can post a screencap of Vincent laying next to Jack, I would be appreciative. It'll become my new sig.
Vincent
If someone can post a screencap of Vincent laying next to Jack, I would be appreciative. It'll become my new sig.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 7:58 am to CocomoLSU
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As speculated for many years by fans, we found out that the characters were actually dead the whole time and experiencing purgatory
No. That's not right.
The flash-sideways was the purgatory. The island was real.
Good morning America chick got it wrong.
This post was edited on 5/24/10 at 7:59 am
Posted on 5/24/10 at 7:59 am to Lacour
when jack got stabbed, i told my wife the series would end with him lying down in the forest and his eye closing
was this too predictable, or did I luck out and get it right?
was this too predictable, or did I luck out and get it right?
Posted on 5/24/10 at 7:59 am to CocomoLSU
this is what the lady on Good Morning America said. I doubt the producers would explain it that way, but you never know.
My personal explanation was the producers were more concerned with exploring themes than having a narrative that made complete sense, but I thought they did a wonderful job of creating emotion in the finale. The reason they were able to do it was they focused on the interrelationships between the characters and fans who have watched all the seasons can certainly be drawn in to that.
In essense they were saying, Look, don't worry about all the smoke monster, dharma, time travel, candidates crap. this show was really about these characters and how they related to each other and grew because of their impact on each other's lives.
My personal explanation was the producers were more concerned with exploring themes than having a narrative that made complete sense, but I thought they did a wonderful job of creating emotion in the finale. The reason they were able to do it was they focused on the interrelationships between the characters and fans who have watched all the seasons can certainly be drawn in to that.
In essense they were saying, Look, don't worry about all the smoke monster, dharma, time travel, candidates crap. this show was really about these characters and how they related to each other and grew because of their impact on each other's lives.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:01 am to Croacka
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was this too predictable, or did I luck out and get it right?
I didn't see it coming until he got up and started walking. When he passed the shoe, I knew.
But then when Vincent came out, I literally began to cry.
I know.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:01 am to Tiger Ryno
quote:
"As speculated for many years by fans, we found out that the characters were actually dead the whole time and experiencing purgatory."
And this is wrong.
The ending wasn't difficult to understand. How are people not getting this?
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:03 am to Salmon
don't shoot the messenger chief.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:06 am to CocomoLSU
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and Freauxzen hated it.
Wrong.
I really liked it.
But I'm with Myth somewhat. The writers took some choices to "create" debate. It was a cheap, manipulative way to keep people talking and weakens the experience. But that has been the whole show. All of the red herrings really cheapened, at least for me, what could have been something great. That's what disappoints me the most.
All of my yelling was in jest.
I really am pissed we got no closure on Miles though.
This post was edited on 5/24/10 at 8:11 am
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:07 am to Tiger Ryno
quote:
this show was really about these characters and how they related to each other and grew because of their impact on each other's lives.
which is what made the original show great
when this changed after about season 2, it was still good enough to keep watching
when they abandoned this after season 4, i just couldn't do it anymore
i wish this show had stayed on the characters the entire time
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:07 am to Salmon
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And this is wrong.
The ending wasn't difficult to understand. How are people not getting this?
I think people understand HOW it could end the way some are saying, what I don't see from many is that they don't understand how the other side can also be correct.
I get it, I do. But the plane crash at the end makes me think otherwise.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:09 am to Lacour
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But then when Vincent came out, I literally began to cry.
My wife has only seen maybe 10-15 full episodes and she cried at the end, too.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 8:11 am to SlowFlowPro
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i wish this show had stayed on the characters the entire time
We got it.
You don't have to keep saying the same thing over and over in every LOST thread.
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