re: LOST "The End" S6.E17&18

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Why do continue to assume anything you say somehow makes it fact?

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why do you continue to ignore the thought that what is seen in the church is Jack's perception

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so now thought=fact?

and you're the one bitching about reading comprehension

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Good grief this is nitpicking This shite doesn't matter...it's what they looked like in the flash-sideways. Gah!

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I agree, I'm just trying to explain where Myth is coming from since its said that all the people in the room are real people. Aaron grew up, he should be able to make the decision to move on as a man.

However, you can get around this if the people are real AND they are perceived from Jack's perspective.

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I appreciate you Lostiacs. This has been fun. You have spent two hours arguing with someone that agrees with you.

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exactly why i have said you are just talking shite. and have done a bad job at doing it.

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Sure Noonan. You have done just a fabulous job with your posting. You get a gold star.

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thanks. nite

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A baby would have nothing to be punished for so the baby could actually be in the waiting room with claire.

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why would an innocent baby have to wait in purgatory?

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If they died on the plane, it makes complete sense that Aaron would still be a baby in the waiting room/Church.

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Y? Because when you die, you spend the afterlife looking exactly like you did when you died?



I didn't watch it, but somewhere in this thread or maybe a different one, I believe someone said that Fox said that the Island was real on the Kimmel show

Christian said "Everything that's ever happened to you is real."

If you want to believe in some multileveled layer of purgatory bc of one scene with a baby in the church, then why not take it further.

How do we know there lives before the crash wasn't purgatory too? Maybe they all died before that, and THAT's where purgatory started.

Island=real life alternate universe=afterlife IMO

I'm not going to stay on and bash people's theories....because I think people should take from it what they want....but for ME


I think it's definitive that they didn't all die on the initial planecrash because Christian said to Jack:

"Some died before you and some LONG afterward".

If they died in the crash, they'd have all died around the same time.


Also, I think the reason for baby aaron is not only did it snap 3 different characters into "the flash" but his birth on the island may have been the most significant thing in his life. We didn't really see the rest of it....but the island is special and his was the first birth in a long time on island. He was with Charlie and his mom. He has no memory of it....but it's still reasonable to assume thats the most meaningful thing in his life if the island is so special. Same with Jin and Sun's kid...getting pregnant on island and surviving may have been the most important thing she ever did....but she wasn't born on the island. So maybe baby aaron isn't fake and fetus ji yeon aren't fake because they are necessary.


Vegetable Cooper is definitely fake as is David Shepherd.


Crazy ending that i'm still wrapping my head around....but good stuff

FWIW, I thought it was the worst possible way to end the series. It's basically the same story as C.S. Lewis' The Last Battle.

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Here they meet the primary characters from the earlier novels, and the series ends with the revelation that "for them, it was only the beginning of the true story, which goes on forever, and in which every chapter is better than the one before." It is revealed by Aslan that the Pevensie children have been involved in a train crash or railway accident that claimed their lives.

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LINK

anybody else think Jack was about to become the smoke monster when he woke up with his head on the rocks?

after contemplating it this morning, i've realized that since the island was only a stepping stone, more explanation was needed

i understand the miticlorian excuse, but i don't think it holds water for this reason: the island was not the true focus of the show, in terms of how it ended.

early in the show, the island was THE focus. why were they on it? how were they getting off? why was it such a big deal to people not on the ship? etc. within THIS context/angle, i could see how explaining the island could have gotten messy (and it would have left many fanatics unfulfilled)

however now that we know that the emo-verse/flash sideways/purgatory was the real focus of the show, the island becomes merely a step for the characters (namely jack) to get to that true venue of retribution

all of the other variables leading up to the emo-verse were in large part explained (even if their role was forced and uncecessary, like MIB-Jacob). since the island was just another one of these variables, we have been left in the dark as to why it truly mattered.

in a show about fate (where jack must accept faith-fate to be redeemed), it's important for each part to have a meaning. to have the biggest catalyst to this resolution be left unexplained creates a situation of randomness, which destroys the fate-faith aspect of the redemption

even if we are to assume that this whole show was solely about jack (which is the only way to logically explain how the resolution was framed), this is a MAJOR narrative gap. for us to accept faith-fate like jack did, everything along the way must mean something, and the only way we can establish the true meaning of these variables is to have them explained, otherwise they don't truly have a meaning.