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re: LOST "The End" S6.E17&18

Posted on 5/23/10 at 11:38 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/23/10 at 11:38 pm to
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If you're a television writer, you have an idea for a show and where you want to go with it. One thing that you don't know is whether your pilot will get picked up. Further, how can you be sure it will last more than a season or two. I'm betting once it got picked up for multiple seasons, the writers had to figure out a way to extend the story and so it takes a new path. They then use the flash sideways to bring back in the purgatory element so they could end the series how they always wanted to.

they could have kept up the original format had they not come out and vehemently denied the island being purgatory (when it was obvious after the first season of flashbacks, that the goal was redemption)
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/23/10 at 11:38 pm to
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so were they dead the whole time....i dont think so....



No they weren't dead, but they still got their point across.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 5/23/10 at 11:38 pm to
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If they are all dead in the crash, then all that important time is not really a part of their "lives"


Maybe because "life" would include purgatory...
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 5/23/10 at 11:39 pm to
Jack just said the the life on the island is real.
Posted by tigerguy121
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Posted on 5/23/10 at 11:39 pm to
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they could have kept up the original format had they not come out and vehemently denied the island being purgatory (when it was obvious after the first season of flashbacks, that the goal was redemption


+1

Writers just weren't good enough to stick close to the original plan, or thought they could always bring it back to purgatory neatly which IMO they did not do.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 5/23/10 at 11:39 pm to
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The light IS the spark of life.

isn't the light what created the smoke monster?

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but it is obvious they were trying to clearly communicate the island as the key to the afterlife and preserving it, preserved themselves.

what is the island, then?
Posted by CE Tiger
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Posted on 5/23/10 at 11:39 pm to
kimmel just thanked michael for killing ana lucia
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/23/10 at 11:40 pm to
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Right. The "side-flashes" were really a "flash forward" technically.



Not really. Time was meaningless according to Christian, which I would imagine heaven to be like. Its a flashback for people like Boone, and a huge flashforward for people like Hurley and Ben.
Posted by tylercsbn9
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Posted on 5/23/10 at 11:40 pm to
Is Marilyn Manson in the audience? I swear I just saw him.
Posted by tigerguy121
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Posted on 5/23/10 at 11:40 pm to
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Maybe because "life" would include purgatory...


purgatory being part of life not really a traditional concept. Majority of people would accept purgatory as a aspect of the "afterlife"
Posted by ULQQKED
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Posted on 5/23/10 at 11:41 pm to
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Is Marilyn Manson in the audience? I swear I just saw him


he is.
Posted by tylercsbn9
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Posted on 5/23/10 at 11:41 pm to
Is Marilyn Manson in the audience? I swear I just saw him.

nvm....just covered it
This post was edited on 5/23/10 at 11:41 pm
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
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Posted on 5/23/10 at 11:41 pm to
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Is Marilyn Manson in the audience? I swear I just saw him


yea it was him
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
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Posted on 5/23/10 at 11:41 pm to
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Not really. Time was meaningless according to Christian, which I would imagine heaven to be like. Its a flashback for people like Boone, and a huge flashforward for people like Hurley and Ben.


Which is why "flash forward" is in quotes. I use the term loosely. It's obviously AFTER everyone has died. Therefore, in the future relative to the show we watched.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/23/10 at 11:41 pm to
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shite was stupid. I hope Lindelof and that other a-hole never work in Hollywood again. This would have been a great miniseries.



If it were jizz inducing for everyone in America, you would say it sucks.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 5/23/10 at 11:42 pm to
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purgatory being part of life not really a traditional concept. Majority of people would accept purgatory as a aspect of the "afterlife"


Depends on how you look at it, but a lot of times it isn't the finale, it's a place of acceptance. The line is thin for sure.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/23/10 at 11:43 pm to
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Call me an idiot, but I liked the ending



Same here. I didn't find it an epic ending, but I found it to be a beautiful and bittersweet ending, which is really what I wanted from it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/23/10 at 11:43 pm to
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How would they know how many seasons they were getting?

this is irrelevant

was the point of the show purgatory? yes

did they deny that it was purgatory? yes

did they end the show with purgatory? yes
Posted by xenythx
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/23/10 at 11:43 pm to
The entire flash sideways arch ultimately just feels like a pointless side story to me.

It's a nice little message and all but what was the point? The fact that they made it the ultimate focal point of the final season and the overall show was disappointing to me.
Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 5/23/10 at 11:44 pm to
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If it were jizz inducing for everyone in America, you would say it sucks.


But it was not. I still not sure where I stand on the ending. But it was not remotely the greatest 15 minutes of TV as some were saying it was supposed to be.

The last 8 minutes of Six Feet Under kicks Lost in the balls and breaks Lost's neck while pissing on the dead remains.
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