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re: LOST "Happily Ever After" S6.E11 (Desmond-centric)
Posted on 4/7/10 at 4:46 pm to White Shadeaux
Posted on 4/7/10 at 4:46 pm to White Shadeaux
I'm assuming in that scenario, he would change whatever caused the split, leaving just one continuous timeline.
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Posted on 4/7/10 at 4:50 pm to joshnorris14
In the past few weeks, weren't we able to find discrepancies suggesting that the nuke didn't cause the alternate timeline and sinking of the Island?
For example Ben still went to the Island post 1977, right?
For example Ben still went to the Island post 1977, right?
Posted on 4/7/10 at 4:52 pm to WG_Dawg
i also forgot the details of the exchange btwn desmond and hawking in the jewelry store.
when he asks for a ring, and she shows him one, he says "i'll take it."
then she looks appalled and says "no, give it back"
you're not supposed to take it, you're supposed to have 2nd thoughts.
then she goes on to say you're supposed to break her heart and enter a race to prove her father wrong, where you'll crash on the island and push the button. and then basically says you HAVE to do this b/c if you don't we're all gone or dead or whatever. good stuff, i need to watch the constant tonight.
when he asks for a ring, and she shows him one, he says "i'll take it."
then she looks appalled and says "no, give it back"
you're not supposed to take it, you're supposed to have 2nd thoughts.
then she goes on to say you're supposed to break her heart and enter a race to prove her father wrong, where you'll crash on the island and push the button. and then basically says you HAVE to do this b/c if you don't we're all gone or dead or whatever. good stuff, i need to watch the constant tonight.
Posted on 4/7/10 at 4:55 pm to lsumatt
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In the past few weeks, weren't we able to find discrepancies suggesting that the nuke didn't cause the alternate timeline and sinking of the Island?
Faraday confirmed what caused the split last night.
Posted on 4/7/10 at 4:56 pm to TDTGodfather
I can't wait to rewatch the series when it's over. Thinking about that exchange in the jewelry store, I still have trouble wrapping my brain around it all, as far as when things took place and such.
Posted on 4/7/10 at 4:57 pm to WG_Dawg
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I'm assuming in that scenario, he would change whatever caused the split, leaving just one continuous timeline.
But wasn't some of the Losties in a different year than Jack/Kate/Sawyer and the rest when they detonated the nuke?
And...refresh me....why did they have to nuke everything again? My point being, whatever the problem was that made detonating a nuke a must-do, wouldn't that stil be a problem to be dealt with?
This post was edited on 4/7/10 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 4/7/10 at 4:58 pm to joshnorris14
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Faraday confirmed what caused the split last night.
Faraday hypothesized what could cause a split. Now, that probably is it, but I was almost certain there were enough events that would prove that to be untrue. My question is how it is possible.
Posted on 4/7/10 at 5:02 pm to lsumatt
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Faraday hypothesized what could cause a split. Now, that probably is it, but I was almost certain there were enough events that would prove that to be untrue.
It is it, if it isn't, the writers just pissed off a lot of people with that filler episode.
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My question is how it is possible
You know any quantum physicists?
Posted on 4/7/10 at 5:05 pm to White Shadeaux
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But wasn't some of the Losties in a different year than Jack/Kate/Sawyer and the rest when they detonated the nuke?
The island was skipping through time. The Ajira 316 passengers were in 2007 and the Jack/Kate/Sawyer clan was in 1977.
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why did they have to nuke everything again?
Because they wanted it to be as if they never went to the island. They succeeded.
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My point being, whatever the problem was that made detonating a nuke a must-do, wouldn't that stil be a problem to be dealt with?
I don't necessarily think so. It would be simple enough for Desmond to travel back in time and prevent Faraday from getting Jack to blow up the bomb.
Posted on 4/7/10 at 5:05 pm to lsumatt
Ok, so I was studying and a thought popped into my head. Please forgive me if I am repeating someone else's theory. (I just skimmed most of the posts instead of pouring over them like normal).
I think the alternate LA timeline is of the MIB's creation. It seems people are given what they think they want most in life, but not true love. I haven't thought it completely through, but Sayid was able to see Nadia again, Desmond finally had Whidmore's approval, Driveshaft really took off (he said "You all everybody" was their first single implying they had more), and Daniel was able to pursue his love of music.
What do y'all think? I'm just spitballing here so if anyone has any other ideas i'd be willing to hear them.
I think the alternate LA timeline is of the MIB's creation. It seems people are given what they think they want most in life, but not true love. I haven't thought it completely through, but Sayid was able to see Nadia again, Desmond finally had Whidmore's approval, Driveshaft really took off (he said "You all everybody" was their first single implying they had more), and Daniel was able to pursue his love of music.
What do y'all think? I'm just spitballing here so if anyone has any other ideas i'd be willing to hear them.
Posted on 4/7/10 at 5:06 pm to lsumatt
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Also, what did this episode tell us about Widmore? He has been viewed as power-hungry, evil villain throughout LOST. He certainly seemed okay in the alternate reality. On the Island, his motives seemed less motivated by power and possibly even altruistic.
His treatment of Desmond was cruel, but appeared to be out of necessity and Widmore even showed empathy. Unlike Ben and the Widmore of past.
i cant wait to see what happens when Ben and Widmore meet up again. that is going to be an awesome scene.
Posted on 4/7/10 at 5:07 pm to joshnorris14
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I don't necessarily think so. It would be simple enough for Desmond to travel back in time and prevent Faraday from getting Jack to blow up the bomb.
I guess that's it, that's what I am trying to figure out in my head.
If he goes back in time to stop Jack from blowing up the island, wouldn't they still be stuck on the island, with all the weirdness that happens there?
Posted on 4/7/10 at 5:09 pm to TDTGodfather
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penny (after des tells that his dad spurned him)-".....I say we celebrate...we celebrate that fate has spared you from a miserable existence under the employ of widmore industries."
i have mostly quit reading these threads because there are a lot of stupid posts about shite that doesn't matter at all. stupid people asking stupid questions or pointing out stupid stuff.
but, that is actually a pretty cool find.
Posted on 4/7/10 at 5:10 pm to joshnorris14
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Desmond goes back pre-incident (pre-timeline split).
I can see this as a possibility. Example - Widmore uses Desmond to go the energy pockets (that were mapped by Jin). Something cataclysmic happens and a major release of EM shoots him back in time, body and all. This could be similar to turning the Wheel except it doesn't move the Island because it destroys the island (or sinks it - haha!). Always a possibility I guess.
Posted on 4/7/10 at 5:11 pm to White Shadeaux
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I guess that's it, that's what I am trying to figure out in my head.
If he goes back in time to stop Jack from blowing up the island, wouldn't they still be stuck on the island, with all the weirdness that happens there?
I've said it before in this thread, but I think that after Desmond prevents the detonation, somehow they wake up in the 2007 time line (As seen at the start of the season.
Posted on 4/7/10 at 5:11 pm to joshnorris14
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You know any quantum physicists?
faraday doesn't in the alternate timelime. he does play a mean piano though.
Posted on 4/7/10 at 5:13 pm to noonan
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faraday doesn't in the alternate timelime.
Maybe not, but he is friends with a Mathematics genius at Cal Poly...
Convenient.
Posted on 4/7/10 at 5:14 pm to joshnorris14
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I've said it before in this thread, but I think that after Desmond prevents the detonation, somehow they wake up in the 2007 time line (As seen at the start of the season.
I can maybe buy that.
But then again, they're all still stuck on an island.
I don't think it will end with them on the island.
This post was edited on 4/7/10 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 4/7/10 at 5:29 pm to noonan
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i have mostly quit reading these threads because there are a lot of stupid posts about shite that doesn't matter at all. stupid people asking stupid questions or pointing out stupid stuff.
It's safe to come back now, we got TigerRyno banned.
Posted on 4/7/10 at 5:52 pm to TDTGodfather
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someone mentioned "flashes before your eyes" on hulu before.
wow i'm only 10:00 in, if anything watch scene at 7:50 when charlie offers des some scotch and desmond's reaction when he finds out what kind it is.
Overall this is probably my favorite episode of LOST. The Constant is great, but it gets to much credit since it is essentially a spinoff of this episode (much like last night's was).
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