re: Long thoughts on the ending of Breaking Bad

Really interesting theory on finale by norm macdonald

I agree with it all except the bit about Jesse. I think his guilt about having brocks mom (can't remember her name right now) killed and his past will continue to give him grief. He'll move past it, but he'll be trapped in that guilt for a long time

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2. deagle's don't come in .40

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They do make a .40 baby eagle

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I don't necessarily agree with that but it's interesting. He does kind of move like a ghost through the finale. But if it was his fantastical vision how does he not get SOME closure with his son. I feel like if it was up to Walt that would be high on his redemption priority list.

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Also, I'm pretty sure Vince Gilligan has done enough interviews since the finale and hasn't said anything about what we saw being just a dream.

The lost finale is the only reason this is even being brought up.

I honestly thought they would have to kill Jesse some way as he was the last person capable of making the pure blue meth.

I thought the writers would definitely close that door forever.

That is an interesting theory and I might buy it if this didn't shoot it down into flaming wreckage:

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Biggest crack in this theory: Jesse’s reality was unknown to Walt, there’s no way it could have found its way into his fantasy.

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One thing that did seem odd about the ending is the gun Walt bought. How did he line that up? Walt really had no connections left like that. Maybe through Badger/Skinny Pete but it seems like he bought the gun pretty much as soon as he hit New Mexico which seems improbable. That would fit the fantasy theory pretty nicely, but I still don't buy it.

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I don't think this is accurate. He is partially responsible and holds himself accountable but not directly responsible.If all evidence was submitted in a criminal case, I don't think he would be convicted in Hank's & Gomey's death

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I didn't really mean responsible in a criminal sense, just morally. But I do think he would be liable for Hank and Gomie's death because he hired a hitman to kill Jesse, which is a felony. Uncle Jack killed Hank in the commission of a felony, which is 1st degree murder in most states. Under the laws of conspiracy and felony murder, Walt would be held liable for the murder as well, despite not pulling the trigger. When committing a felony, you are legally responsible for all murders which occur in the commission of that crime, even if you didn't actually kill them yourself.

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I don't buy that Jesse is such a good hearted person. He felt no remorse when fleeing the cartel. Yes,it was a gunfight, but he essentially saved Mike and Gus by killing someone. He only feels guilt if he deems them innocent. Gale's own personal views on drugs doesn't excuse him from anything. Nor should Jesse's justification that killing Gale is somehow worse than killing the security in Mexico. Walt had killed for him and Jesse certainly was ready to kill for retribution of Andrea's brother murder. Jesse only "changed" when he witnessed a murder of innocent, not his actual sins.

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I think he clearly is. First off, he doesn't kill the cartel, Gus does. Jesse has no knowledge what's about to go down. He also is relieved by their deaths because, well, they were going to make him their hostage or maybe even kill him. This is far closer to self-defense.

Jesse killed two people in the course of the show: Todd and Gale. He didn't even like Gale, and Gale was no innocent, but he was psychologically destroyed by it. He also was the only one to object to selling to kids, which even Gus had no actual problem with. Jesse is not up for saint of the year, he's still a meth cook guilty of an untold number of felonies, but he is the only major character who actually recognizes what they do is wrong, and feels guilt over it. Which is why he is constantly punished.

Interesting theory on Walt in Felina:

Atonement by way of Faust. Did Walt sell his soul?

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Me4Heisman

Walt had bought a gun from the same guy earlier in the series.

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Thanks, I'd forgotten about that.

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Did Walt sell his soul?

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Another theory is he sold his soul for $50 since his Aztec represented his soul. Every time he did something pretty terrible his Aztec got damaged, often a busted windshield. When he sells it he reaches in to the back seat to get his Heisenberg hat and put it on. He is now completely Heisenberg with a new black car.