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re: LoLoL. Disney doing work on Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic

Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:22 am to
Posted by The Godfather
Surrounded by Assholes
Member since Mar 2005
41433 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:22 am to
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I am thoroughly confused. I'm an OT era, hard core SW fan and I loved it. Absolutely loved it. My buddy that I saw it with, same. My brother who is also a lifelong hardcore fan loved it. Everyone I know personally that has seen it loved it. The only place I'm seeing hate is the internet.



Same here.. and it’s funny when everyone brings up the audience scores no one mentions IMDB where it’s like 8/10 with almost as many votes as RT and Cinemascore where it gets an A.. and that’s actual people polled that are getting out of the movie, not someone who is clicking a button and may not have even watched the movie yet.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49264 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:33 am to
Yeah that's not SJW, that's just you being a whiny pussy. You're just as bad as the SJWs who bitch about a movie not being diverse enough
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:35 am to
I don't know about the RT scores but IMDB user scores are always absolutely retarded.

Movie was about a 6/10 for me. I'm not a huge Star Wars guy though.
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45150 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:37 am to
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My wife cant even be around me cause im in such a bad mood


Good Lord. Some of you grown men are embarrassing.
Posted by Lacour
Member since Nov 2009
32949 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:46 am to
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Tiger Ryno


Another idiot
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:20 pm to
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no one mentions IMDB where it’s like 8/10

Maybe you should have moseyed over to the actual reviews page. There is no way an 8/10 can be supported when the entire first page has nothing but negative comments. IMDB is just another review site that Disney got to and froze their ratings score, as the poor ratings began to flow in. Heres a snippet of the first page
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3/10

"I 'FUNDAMENTALLY DISAGREE WITH EVERY CHOICE' FOR LUKE IN THE LAST JEDI" - Mark Hamill
decay050314

453 out of 579 found this helpful.

2/10

Over 8 stars... for this?
gotton201314

1/10

I STARTED TO CRY AFTER 90 MINUTES
busfahrer0914


3/10

I CAN'T believe it
Kevinlenaerts114

211 out of 284 found this helpful.

2/10

Bad Plot and Poor Writing
minamorgan14

208 out of 280 found this helpful.

3/10

Went to the movies happy, came out partially sad and confused.
prab-jhooti14


3/10

Worse than I thought it would be, horrible script. That fantastic trailer tricked me!
wolfybiscuts14

1/10

The Last Jedi is so bad on so many levels.
btb90-387-61744814

3/10

"It's time for the Jedi, and for Star Wars... to end."
samuel_faict14

2/10

This movie declaration of bankruptcy to the Star Wars world
zacharyherz-0808914

1/10

The Death of Star Wars
realmuthaf14

1/10

NEVER, in ALL MY LIFE, have I been more GENUINELY ANGRY at a movie.
liell15

4/10

Perhaps time to stop now Disney...
corozin14

3/10

My heart is broken
phoebeduckmanton14

6/10

To sum up the movie in one sentence: Snoke is a silly joke in a yellow bathrobe compared to Palpatine.
qrules14

5/10

Devastated to say the least
magpiemitch14

1/10

Absolute garbage
pavleilijasevic-7973614

2/10

Disney strikes back
emanueleromagnolo14

1/10

Total Disappointment.
Warhound14

1/10

A Betrayal to the Legacy
Mustafa Karaliman14
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49264 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:33 pm to
Yeah you're clearly just cherry picking :lol.

And amazing reviews you got there
Posted by lsuguy84
CO
Member since Feb 2009
19660 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:38 pm to
Nah, he’s not. The first page is all bad reviews
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49264 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:40 pm to
And the overall score is still an 8, point being the majority still liked it. The ones who hated are just a vocal minority
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:42 pm to
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Yeah you're clearly just cherry picking :lol.

That was the exact reviews from the first page when I clicked on it. Did not add or delete a single review

And its ordered by "Most Helpful", which also means most of the negative reviews are being seen as the most informative by other users. That's IMDB policy, not mine
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:50 pm to
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And the overall score is still an 8, point being the majority still liked it.

No, it means that they have frozen their average score, because all the newer reviews are overwhelmingly negative, yet the average doesn't change

The numbers on RT, Meta, and IMDB now haven't changed in 18 hours, which is BS with the supposed number of people that are going to see it. At least one of those services should have ticked up or down at least 1/10th in 18 hours. Nope, nada, nein! No movement whatsoever. They have all been paid to lock it down

Just like you now know the critics were paid to write positive reviews
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49264 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:52 pm to
Sure bro it's all a big conspiracy, it couldn't be that the movie outside the casino was pretty solid.

Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49264 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:54 pm to
Frankly I don't care for fan scores on big movies like this, because it's either a bunch of people bitching because it's not exactly what they wanted or it's people blinded by fandom.

Hence why I'm trustworthy of the critics or just my own opinion
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20379 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:54 pm to
Haven't seen it yet. Going to wait to let the fever die down, so I can see it in a relaxed setting.

I don't really care about the business/money aspect... I am a huge Star Wars fan going back to my childhood love of the original movie. Clearly, I am one of many like this, as Star Wars is as big a franchise as anything out there. Kind of funny now that Disney owns it, along with Marvel and all the Disney animated films... they have everything that produces toys (or at least it seems to be the case).

The condenscending "it didn't go the direction you wanted, and now you are throwing a fit" remarks- that's a bit off-base to attack someone for.
Star Wars has been HUGE since the 70's, and it DOES have a direction. It always has. Like classic James Bond movies, there are certain elements that you can anticipate, and that's part of the reason you go see it. Going against the grain on these elements is going to upset a lot of fans. Permanent changes (like on-screen deaths of major characters) completely alter the story in a way you can't go correct later on.

Without going into spoiler detail, I agree about the concerns around Luke and Leia. Carrie Fisher is dead, and I'm sorry, I don't want to pay to see a future live-action film where a prominent figure is just CGI. That goes beyond Star Wars, that's a basic movie model decision... animated is one thing. Recasting is one thing (the Bond series, for example). But "casting" a computer-generated likeness of a human for a major role, something we don't seem to have any other choice but to do- that alters the entire medium.
I'm not paying top dollar to watch a CGI Humphrey Bogart in a movie, I won't do that for Carrie Fisher either. I found the recent Marvel attempts to de-age Michael Douglass and Kurt Russell to be distracting, and didn't care for CGI Leia and Tarkin in Rogue One (visually, they were off). I want live actors.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 1:01 pm to
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Sure bro it's all a big conspiracy,

No, its Disney spending money to protect its investment. They have a Star Wars hotel coming, a Star Wars section in theme parks, rides, stage shows, another installment in this trilogy, and 2 more trilogies are slated

If this movie burns all that to the ground, they have wasted a shite ton of money

So they are spending PR money now, to protect that future investment for later. I think what they are coming to realize is that Star Wars isn't a Universe like MCU, where you simply interchange characters. SW is about a very powerful family that no one wants to see get gutted. Just so they can bring out the next set of character merchandise
Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 1:15 pm to
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This movie was just straight up BAD and cheapens the original trilogy characters in the worst ways possible.


hardly.

I think that people are pissed that Rey turned out not to be Palpatine's daughter...or Luke turned out to be fairly broken after his failure with Ben Solo. Again, the direction they went wasn't expected by the internet trolls thus the crying. Anyone who thinks this movie was bad is sad because there wasn't enough pew pew. The story itself was good...and I say that as someone who wished the saga had gone in a different direction...(I really thought Rey might be a skywalker because Star Wars has always...including the prequels...been about the Skywalker family). But I can put aside that disappointment and enjoy the story...because it was quite good.
Posted by TIGERSTORM
parts unknown
Member since Feb 2009
4510 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 1:30 pm to
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You have no idea how disappointed and angry ive been since opening night. My wife cant even be around me cause im in such a bad mood


Jesus. I can't imagine being this sad.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 1:33 pm to
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Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35497 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 1:34 pm to
Well if small no-name companies hire people all the time over the internet to write phony reviews for some crap product...

Sure as hell, Disney can easily round-up a bunch of people at home sitting on their computers to do the same.

I'm surprised they let it get down to 56%.

Ghostbuster most likely paid a bunch of people to counter-act the dislikes on their trailer on YouTube.
Posted by oreeg
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
5280 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 1:39 pm to
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I'm an OT era, hard core SW fan and I loved it.


Did you realize the first action sequence in the movie was preceded by a resistance pilot prank calling the first order general? If you thought this was funny and belonged in a Star Wars movie, you are not a fan of the OT and need to punched in the face.

The movie felt like a bad parody of a Star Wars movie. Just call it Space Balls 2: The Search for More Money and be done with it.
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