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re: Loki Season 2: Season Long Discussion Thread
Posted on 11/9/23 at 9:54 pm to whichyalnoaboutseven
Posted on 11/9/23 at 9:54 pm to whichyalnoaboutseven
Great finale to a great season and series.
Like someone said though, where do they go from here? Loki literally controls time now and can time slip, just seems like any threat from the Kang variants can be ended by him with a swiftness. Obviously Marvel will script the final confrontation in a way that doesn't make it that simple for the good guys, but I feel like however they do explain away why Loki can't end any Kang uprising with a snap of his fingers will be hollow
Like someone said though, where do they go from here? Loki literally controls time now and can time slip, just seems like any threat from the Kang variants can be ended by him with a swiftness. Obviously Marvel will script the final confrontation in a way that doesn't make it that simple for the good guys, but I feel like however they do explain away why Loki can't end any Kang uprising with a snap of his fingers will be hollow
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 10:05 pm to Broski
Does he control time or is he holding it all together so others have a chance to build something new? It seems like he sacrificed himself to hold it together for what comes next and he’s now at the center of the Tree of Life. Secret Wars will be the war to fight over what comes next, good or bad.
Loki S2 was amazing. Episodes 4 and 6 were the best. Incredible show. Best thing in the MCU since Endgame.
Loki S2 was amazing. Episodes 4 and 6 were the best. Incredible show. Best thing in the MCU since Endgame.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 10:11 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
quote:They don't stand a chance
Kang variants still out there. Still might be a war and Loki is in the final showdown.
Seriously
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Anyone could have gone in the suit and would have faced the same fate due to the high radiation
Any HUMAN.
That part was highlighted in the show's recap in the beginning... Loki says to He Who Remains- "you're just a man".
Loki looked at the equation, and like he said, "let's change the equation".
Look at it this way- "He Who Remains" is a simple mathematics equation; say X times one hundred.
Let's take Victor Timely... he's a man. Let's give a man the value of 1. You make him He Who Remains, and he is 1 times 100, so he becomes 100.
Loki is NOT a man. We forget, but he's over a thousand years old, has a wide range of powers, is stronger (whipped Captain America's arse in Avengers), is more durable (fell into the Void in Thor 1, fell out of the Bifrost in Ragnarok etc), etc etc. He STARTS much higher, let's give him a value of, say, 20.
You plug Loki into the He Who Remains equation, and that's 20 times 100, so 2000.
Basically, since Loki was so much more to begin with, now that he's put in the work to become He Who Remains, he's just going to be so much more powerful than any human who undergoes the same process. He wins, as long as he wants to remain in the contest.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 10:13 pm to AlaTiger
What an amazing finale, and a good finish for Lokis arc. That’s how you build a character. He finally got the the throne he wanted, and is burdened with purpose.
Bring on Secret Wars.
Bring on Secret Wars.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 10:18 pm to Scoob
Im assuming secret wars will be a multiverse battle that ends with kang defeating Loki at the end of time which then goes into the kang dynasty?
Posted on 11/9/23 at 10:19 pm to Bonkers119
They might not be able to afford Hiddleston in another series
Only a movie will get him back on screen
Only a movie will get him back on screen
Posted on 11/9/23 at 10:27 pm to nicholastiger
What an incredible finale. I rewound the scene of him coming into true form probably five times.
A question about the Renslayer scene, could they have been hinting at her becoming the new kang? I don’t know the legal troubles with Jonathan Majors, but I don’t think he’ll return as Kang (which is unfortunate unless he is guilty).
A question about the Renslayer scene, could they have been hinting at her becoming the new kang? I don’t know the legal troubles with Jonathan Majors, but I don’t think he’ll return as Kang (which is unfortunate unless he is guilty).
Posted on 11/9/23 at 10:35 pm to AlaTiger
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Secret Wars will be the war to fight over what comes next, good or bad.
But how do you explain away why Loki can't just continuously time slip until he finds out the correct way to defeat Kang?
That's literally what happened in this episode.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 10:35 pm to Large Farva
Add me to the list.
Now...just make him Bind and be done with it.
Now...just make him Bind and be done with it.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 10:41 pm to Large Farva
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could they have been hinting at her becoming the new kang?
I mean I guess if you interpret that scene as her meeting and eventually taming Alioth.
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I don’t know the legal troubles with Jonathan Majors, but I don’t think he’ll return as Kang (which is unfortunate unless he is guilty).
I think he's back as long as he isn't found guilty. The fact that they went ahead and aired this season without any delays and didn't downplay his role in it tells me they are sticking by him until the bitter end.
They are kinda forced to be all in with Majors at this point considering they've already established him as the big bad for this saga.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 10:47 pm to Broski
How did you interpret the renslayer scene?
Posted on 11/9/23 at 10:47 pm to whichyalnoaboutseven
Truly the best character arc in the MCU beside Tony Stark.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 10:49 pm to Large Farva
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How did you interpret the renslayer scene?
Very open ended
Posted on 11/9/23 at 10:52 pm to Broski
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But how do you explain away why Loki can't just continuously time slip until he finds out the correct way to defeat Kang? That's literally what happened in this episode.
Pretty sure what Loki did was the only way around HWR’s loop, aside from Killing Sylvie and leaving him alive and the TVA as it was.
Edit: I may have misinterpreted what you meant.
I do not think Loki can time slip while also keeping the timelines alive.
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 10:54 pm to Soul Gleaux
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I’m trying to figure out the Yggdrassill tie in.
Same... though it was a nice nod to the fact that he is, in fact, part of the Asgardian pantheon.
I'd also love for him to see Thor again some day. This variant evolved much like the one in the "sacred timeline" did, in that he is redeemed and values more than himself.
It'd be kind of amusing if Sylvie showed up in a Thor movie/story as a love interest.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:02 pm to Broski
Don’t think Loki can time slip while he holds all the timelines together. He’s basically keeping them alive at the end of time by giving them energy. If he time slips, he’s gone. Bye bye timelines. He’s stuck there until Secret Wars. Felt very much like a series finale and a good bye to TH as Loki. What an amazing show
Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:03 pm to WicKed WayZ
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and a good bye to TH as Loki.
I don't see how there is any possibly way he is not involved in the Kang Avengers movies.
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:40 pm to WicKed WayZ
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Don’t think Loki can time slip while he holds all the timelines together. He’s basically keeping them alive at the end of time by giving them energy. If he time slips, he’s gone. Bye bye timelines. He’s stuck there until Secret Wars. Felt very much like a series finale and a good bye to TH as Loki. What an amazing show
It was a series finale but I doubt it’s the end of Hiddleston as Loki
Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:41 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
quote:No...
Im assuming secret wars will be a multiverse battle that ends with kang defeating Loki at the end of time which then goes into the kang dynasty?
Loki has reached his destiny, and is basically God for lack of a better description. I'd say he's above the fighting now; he controls and protects existence.
It's in the hands of the heroes in-universe to protect each timeline, and then Loki's TVA to cull truly universe-ending threats. And if they can't stop it, Loki can let go of that timeline, and it withers and turns to spaghetti.
Kang can't take control with the Loom again, as when he did, it was "just" a bunch of random threads; now Loki is in the heart of them all, and is sentient (and thus able to resist).
A Star Wars comparison- Kang was "using the Force"; Loki IS the Force.
Posted on 11/10/23 at 12:27 am to Scoob
Also a true sacrifice because he only learned to control his time slipping because he didn’t want to lose his friends and be alone. Now he’s going to be forever alone…at least until Secret Wars resets everything. Then maybe Loki can get his happy ending
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