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re: Leave The World Behind on Netflix (Spoilers Pg. 2)

Posted on 12/10/23 at 9:21 pm to
Posted by OrthoBro
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 9:21 pm to
One of the few movies I’ve watched in a while where I didn’t have it figured out a third of the way through. Wasn’t a big fan of the ending but overall, a good movie.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 10:00 pm to
I went with black hole
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 10:25 pm to
Just watched it and thought it was enjoyable.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 11:45 pm to
It’s a brilliant movie if you’re capable of being honest with yourself. Race was just a tiny part of it. It’s about how easy it is to make somebody else an other . It’s a critique of all of us who refuse to listen to the other side, who just retreat to our respective corners, put our fingers in our ears, and shout out how wrong the other side is. The louder side wins. But nobody really wins. And the “enemy” understands us better than we understand ourselves and just waits. We’ll eventually turn on ourselves.

It’s weird because the people who hate this movie seem to be, to me, the same people who think it would turn out just like this. Whatever.

I thought the Kevin Bacon character was close to being a caricature, but I thought they made a smart choice to have an American flag hanging on his house when other films would have had a Confederate flag. That would have been cheap. And he finally gave in to the barter system, which is what we hope we happen, as opposed to simple selfish murder. And I think they did a good job of juxtaposing his character with the unseen owner of the house at the ending. Whoever owned and built that was just as (justifiably) paranoid as “right wing” Bacon while being just as “left wing elite” opposite. At the end of the day, we are all just people. Do people just suck or are we there for each other?

The ending was both brilliant and heavy-handed. “I’ll be there for you.” Will you? Will I? Will we work together? Or just look out for ourselves? I’m not sure. The “enemy” bet on one side. I’m not sure I’d bet on the other. But the ambiguity of the ending was perfect. We don’t need a sequel or a series. We need to find the answer to the question ourselves. But I’m not sure we’d like the answer. People may just suck.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 12:04 am to
That's a good recap. I took a lot of the same themes away from it. The scene where George is talking at the end when they're leaving the contractor's house was pretty powerful IMO
Posted by cfish140
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 6:42 am to
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Hot Carl


Nailed it. The people wanting a sequel aren’t getting it. It’s not “red dawn” which is about fighting off a foreign enemy. It’s about how humans would react when the shite hits the fan and you don’t have any of your precious electronics or debit cards. How long will it take for you to do what the enemy wants which is to turn on eachother? And how much misinformation is going to be thrown around until facts are brought to the forefront? Clay was just lucky he was with someone who happened to be in the “know” and knew what was happening. While Danny was the most prepared even he had it wrong assuming it was Koreans.

Julia Robert’s character is a misanthrope. She has an intense dislike and mistrust of the human race and believes that all humans are inherently bad. While her husband is the opposite, more trusting and leaves his guard down. Evidenced by how he just took that drink at the beginning not even thinking twice if it’s drugged. Which is better to be in this situation? Trust no one but your family? Or let others in and try to work together? There’s tons of philosophical questions like this throughout the movie, it’s not supposed to be an action flick about an invasion. Brilliant film. One of my favorite parts is when GH poses the question “what’s scarier, a group of shadowy powerful people controlling the world, or knowing that actually there is nobody in control and the most the powerful people can hope for is a heads up?”

Also, I was praying it wasn’t aliens. Glad they didn’t go that route
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:39 am to
I thought it was pretty good. Not perfect, but great compared to most Netflix films.

Definitely a heavy dose of Sam Esmail with the cinematography. I thought some of the sweeping shots to reveal information as the characters became aware of it were clever, but the constant spinning in circles was a little much.

My only real gripe was the exposition. In the very first scene, Julia Roberts basically gives a monologue to set the stage which I thought was kind of cheesy. And towards the end, I thought they revealed too much. Particularly with GH’s final spiel about “what happens next.” I thought that was a bit unnecessary.

I don’t really understand why people seem to hate the ending though. I’ve seen criticism about how they left too much unresolved. If anything I feel the opposite. I never got the impression that it was supposed to be some kind of mystery box story where all is revealed at the end.

Idk, I enjoyed it even if it wasn’t Oscar-worthy.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:02 am to
It wasn't theorized in the movie but did anyone consider the possibility that this could have been an attack on all of humanity by artificial intelligence?
Posted by Outback Ray
Member since May 2021
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:03 am to
This movie is absolute none-sense. It thinks it's smart and sophisticated ... but it's really just stupid.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:06 am to
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It wasn't theorized in the movie but did anyone consider the possibility that this could have been an attack on all of humanity by artificial intelligence?

I did. When GH got ready to spill the beans at the end I thought he was going to talk about some sort of top-secret AI that the DOD had been building.
Posted by cfish140
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:11 am to
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It wasn't theorized in the movie but did anyone consider the possibility that this could have been an attack on all of humanity by artificial intelligence?


That’s what I thought when the teslas started crashing themselves
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:20 am to
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That’s what I thought when the teslas started crashing themselves

That was one part of the movie that made it seem fictional like a dream sequence. Why were they all the same model and color?

Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2012
4149 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:10 am to
I figured it was just like the BirdBox movie where Netflix can save a buck by not showing the threat.

This was mostly atmosphere. Nothing really happened to anyone.

Maybe if those deer had trampled someone, or the ship falls over on someone, or something like happens...

There was bunch of dead bodies on a beach for some reason...
Where were all the birds?
Couldn't Netflix hire someone to spread birdseed over the bodies? There should have been an hellova lot of seagulls there.

Whole thing was just ughh...

If I want and end of the world story, Ill catch "The Road".
That at least made sense and had a message.

Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9412 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:14 am to
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Why were they all the same model and color?

That didn’t occur to me but it’s a good question.

I could see them all being the same model but you’d think they would have different colors.

It strikes me as a creative decision by Sam Esmail. Probably making them all the same to give them a “mindless drone” feeling. If you watched Mr. Robot, Esmail was very intentional about how he used colors in various scenes.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:15 am to
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There was bunch of dead bodies on a beach for some reason...

Yeah that reason being a plane crash

quote:


This was mostly atmosphere. Nothing really happened to anyone.

None of the main characters were killed off but I wouldn't say nothing happened to them. Without the bunker they would likely not not have survived much longer. And you don't really know what is in store for them assuming they all safely make it to the bunker. The boy was sick and a few pills probably don't save him.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9412 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:17 am to
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There was bunch of dead bodies on a beach for some reason...
Where were all the birds?

When they panned out from the house before going to the beach, you could see a bunch of vultures circling overhead.

The bodies were from the plane crash. At least one of them was wearing a pilot uniform.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162231 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:27 am to
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The bodies were from the plane crash

Honestly don't know how someone could have missed this detail.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9412 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:35 am to
Yeah it’s funny.. my initial thought was “too much exposition” but then when they do decide to show rather than tell, it goes right over folks’ heads.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
20517 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 12:24 pm to
Watched this last night. Really enjoyed it, and had no problem with the ending. I think it was a fittingly somber note to close on regarding some of the questions the movie posed throughout. I think some of the frustration with the ending is coming from people who watched it in a more pragmatic/literal way.

I do get the frustration with what felt like the unnecessary shoehorning of race, it seemed that could’ve been left out without detracting from the overall story, but I’ve never read the book. That could’ve been a prominent element. Either way it wasn’t too overbearing, at least by modern standards.
Posted by LSU4ever2002
Member since Sep 2009
642 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 12:25 pm to
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I’d be in trouble in that situation. I never carry cash lol


Maybe I missed something but I was surprised he took the cash for the medicine. Cash does nothing when the world is falling apart.
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