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re: Lead Actress sums up "Lovecraft Country"
Posted on 8/6/20 at 1:52 pm to Roaad
Posted on 8/6/20 at 1:52 pm to Roaad
That's weird, because I didn't get that vibe from the trailer - it looked like there was a misdirect that it WOULD be about it (the way the sheriff's deputies begin their interaction with the protagonists), but then it appears they're trying to protect them.
Shame if it turned out to be just more political stuff. I was really looking forward to it.
Shame if it turned out to be just more political stuff. I was really looking forward to it.
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Posted on 8/6/20 at 2:03 pm to skrayper
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That's weird, because I didn't get that vibe from the trailer
It's a Jordan Peele series. Could be heavy with social justice (Get Out) or it could just touch on it (Twilight Zone). He's hit and miss in both categories.
I'm hoping that it's a situation like Birds of Prey, where a cast member wants some SJW attention and claims that the entire movie is a F.U. to toxic males, then we find out they were full of shite.
Posted on 8/6/20 at 2:22 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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I'm hoping that it's a situation like Birds of Prey, where a cast member wants some SJW attention and claims that the entire movie is a F.U. to toxic males
I missed that. Who said it?
Posted on 8/6/20 at 2:37 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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I missed that. Who said it?
Obi Wan did an interview where he said that the script took a subtle look at misogyny and how men should change and yaddah yaddah and the masses took it as the film would be woke from start to finish.
Posted on 8/6/20 at 2:59 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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I'm hoping that it's a situation like Birds of Prey, where a cast member wants some SJW attention and claims that the entire movie is a F.U. to toxic males, then we find out they were full of shite.
Full disclosure - I don't think Peele is the right guy for this.
My preference (and what the Lovecraftian universe deserves, frankly) is a period piece, even if one had to make it a bit steampunk at this point, riff on both the film noir and horror elements, in a cohesive, multi-season format that covers the essential, core "written by" Lovecraft and the accepted expanded universe through the 50s and 60s.
There is so much material there, it would have to be cut down to meet a 4 or 5 seasons, 8 to 10 ep per season run as it is. But, it could be done by the right folks. It should avoid #Wokeness like the (Wuhan) flu.
Posted on 8/6/20 at 3:19 pm to Sasquatch Smash
Nyarlahotep or Bust!
Posted on 8/6/20 at 3:19 pm to Roaad
How disappointing. I thought this had some promise based on the previews I saw, but it's more woke bullshite (and starring Jussie Smollett's sister to boot) then frick that. I'm out.
Posted on 8/6/20 at 3:26 pm to Ace Midnight
...but this is a period piece. It just covers a Lovecraftian setting in the 60s vs Lovecraft's stories in their time.
The marketing is bad. I'd never even heard of the novel and just saw flashes of the commercials on things like Amazon's top screen. This isn't an adaptation of HP Lovecraft (booooooooo). It is an adaptation of a book that used elements from his stories. It's a little bait and switch but that's about where it ends. I want this to do well, honestly, not because of a vested interest in this story. But I'd like to see other stuff make it out like Brian Lumley's Wamphyrie or Titus Crow
The marketing is bad. I'd never even heard of the novel and just saw flashes of the commercials on things like Amazon's top screen. This isn't an adaptation of HP Lovecraft (booooooooo). It is an adaptation of a book that used elements from his stories. It's a little bait and switch but that's about where it ends. I want this to do well, honestly, not because of a vested interest in this story. But I'd like to see other stuff make it out like Brian Lumley's Wamphyrie or Titus Crow
Posted on 8/6/20 at 4:16 pm to Carson123987
I was gonna say, how would Lovecraft or Cthulhu have any remote tie in to 'white supremacy ' ??
I don't get it.
I don't get it.
Posted on 8/6/20 at 4:51 pm to AURaptor
Well theres that poem On the Creation of
I honestly don't know if it's Lovecraft or not. But it's touted to be him. So there you go.
But the portfolio of his stories was always white civilization vs the chaotic mess of blacks (the deep ones and such alien menaces) and race traitors (the cultists).
So beyond the creepy monsters racism was always a part of it. Lovecraft was just a weird dude even for his time with a a great imagination and a swing wildly for the fence version of writing.
I honestly don't know if it's Lovecraft or not. But it's touted to be him. So there you go.
But the portfolio of his stories was always white civilization vs the chaotic mess of blacks (the deep ones and such alien menaces) and race traitors (the cultists).
So beyond the creepy monsters racism was always a part of it. Lovecraft was just a weird dude even for his time with a a great imagination and a swing wildly for the fence version of writing.
Posted on 8/6/20 at 5:37 pm to ZappBrannigan
I don't see that as racism. HP Lovecraft was born in 1890, and lived until 1937. I know folks are tearing down statues of folks from the War Between the States, but good grief, folks need to get over stuff from 100, 200, 400 freaking years ago.
Posted on 8/6/20 at 9:05 pm to AURaptor
Lovecraft wasn't the White man's burden type of racism and he did change some views later on from being everyone not WASP bad to it's possible for the Jews to uplift. And WASPs of his time had similar views as he eventually just limited it to only the Irish and blacks suck.
But hand-waving away his own words describing the miscegenation of Innsmouth or the conflicts of the civilized protagonists against the chaotic universe also mirroring his private letters and public essays, along with the above mentioned poem doesn't get excused just because he was a man of his time and place. Because he was also a crazy weirdo on top of that. Acknowledging it doesn't inherently make him a bad guy either. It wasn't like he was out there lynching people or going around with other WASPs and beating the shite out of any Jew, Irish or black they found. But the soul and dread of his stories was fed by his views on society and the place of everyone in the world as he saw through the lens.
So congrats on bringing the OT/pol statues into this I guess. Because tearing down isn't whats happening here.
But hand-waving away his own words describing the miscegenation of Innsmouth or the conflicts of the civilized protagonists against the chaotic universe also mirroring his private letters and public essays, along with the above mentioned poem doesn't get excused just because he was a man of his time and place. Because he was also a crazy weirdo on top of that. Acknowledging it doesn't inherently make him a bad guy either. It wasn't like he was out there lynching people or going around with other WASPs and beating the shite out of any Jew, Irish or black they found. But the soul and dread of his stories was fed by his views on society and the place of everyone in the world as he saw through the lens.
So congrats on bringing the OT/pol statues into this I guess. Because tearing down isn't whats happening here.
Posted on 8/7/20 at 1:06 am to Roaad
I’m not entirely sure how it relates to lovecraft, but I’ll still watch a few episodes
Posted on 8/7/20 at 1:10 am to AURaptor
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ut good grief, folks need to get over stuff from 100, 200, 400 freaking years ago.
The holocaust and Hiroshima aren’t far from 100 years ago. There are still people alive who lived through all of these things.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:59 am to Carson123987
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huge lovecraft fan
looked up the synopsis with my dad and completely lost interest
Me as well. I am just exhausted by the constant need to have political messaging when I am looking for escapism entertainment.
I think the only thing worth watching recently has been Barry (which I love but can choose to skip or stream if I drop HBO).
And for the people who don't get the perspective you just aren't trying very hard. I will again vote for anyone other than Trump in November but holy shite am I tired of the oppression narrative messaging. Can you imagine the outrage from people of your political sphere if HBO regularly carried the same type of material from a conservative bias? You wouldn't be thrilled.
There's just no perspective. We are all among the luckiest people to ever walk the face of the earth. Assuming civilization doesn't collapse our descendents will be luckier still.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 10:25 am to TexasTiger1185
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The holocaust and Hiroshima aren’t far from 100 years ago. There are still people alive who lived through all of these things.
And your point is... what? We're allies with both Germany AND Japan now. Probably more so with Japan, and yet... what? You're somehow suggesting burning of police stations , vandalism and assaulting the elderly today is a rational response to things NO ONE ALIVE had a hand in or supports??
Posted on 8/9/20 at 10:36 am to TexasTiger1185
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The holocaust and Hiroshima aren’t far from 100 years ago.
Nagasaki was 75 years ago, today, BTW.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 11:37 am to Roaad
I don't get the anger for this. I love Lovecraft style things, but it's pretty obvious this is a different book. I wouldn't go to Pride and Prejudice and Zombies and expect Jane Austen.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 1:34 pm to Jcorye1
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I wouldn't go to Pride and Prejudice and Zombies and expect Jane Austen.
It’s the best Pride and Prejudice adaptation so far. :)
Posted on 8/9/20 at 1:48 pm to Jcorye1
quote:I haven't read through the thread, are people angry? Anger at a show existing is not a proportional or appropriate response.
I don't get the anger for this.
I'm not angry. Just exhausted by seemingly everything having to be woke. Not saying such things should not exist.
Just because I don't want to watch it, doesn't mean I am angry. I don't watch Soccer or Curling, but I am not angry with them.
Now if every sport suddenly became soccer, I would become exhausted and stop watching them. I would be heartbroken, but not angry.
This post was edited on 8/9/20 at 1:49 pm
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