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Posted on 8/6/20 at 11:46 am to BugAC
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I didn't watch it because it didn't interest me, the movie fell flat (IMO), and i didn't need another show trying to imply everyone is racist.
just curious how you know that it was "another show trying to imply everyone is racist" without actually watching it?
Posted on 8/6/20 at 11:50 am to Jay Are
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Talking about her brother is not attaching her career to his. Trump did not attach his career to the pedophile he wishes well. You are not attaching your career to Jurnee Smollett by talking about her here. That's not how it works.
This is confusing. I understand they are working actors, but neither are famous enough to be known more for their work than the orchestrated hate crime that the guy committed. Whether intentional or not, she absolutely attached her career to her brother by defending the indefensible, now she looks like a fool. Obviously you have a motive here because your line about Trump makes no sense and has no context in any of this
Posted on 8/6/20 at 11:53 am to ZappBrannigan
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To be fair it's been at least 20 years and probably more of those. I mean you only have to update the year.
Oh, I don't doubt it, but it seems more appropriate this year.
Posted on 8/6/20 at 11:57 am to Jay Are
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Is Euphoria woke? His Dark Materials?
These two, especially the first, likely are.
I mean, "His Dark Materials" is about killing God and showing the horrors of the church. (Though, it has been a long time since I read the series, not sure how strongly the church bit is.)
Posted on 8/6/20 at 12:01 pm to Sasquatch Smash
the HBO "His Dark Materials" series on HBO wasn't "woke" by any measure
it just wasn't very good
it just wasn't very good
Posted on 8/6/20 at 12:02 pm to Salmon
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just curious how you know that it was "another show trying to imply everyone is racist" without actually watching it?
Well, the creator of the show was asked this: "Can you explain why White Supremacy is the plot arc of Watchmen?"
And answered with this:
"To me, Watchmen is a story about America. And it’s about self-proclaimed “heroes” fighting an intangible enemy that is almost impossible to defeat. In the eighties, that enemy was the pervasive threat of nuclear Armageddon between the U.S. and the Soviet Union. In 2019, that enemy is the long overdue reckoning with our country’s camouflaged history of White Supremacy. That said, this is not the ONLY plot arc because there are also alien squids."
So maybe the other poster has a point.
Posted on 8/6/20 at 12:04 pm to Salmon
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ust curious how you know that it was "another show trying to imply everyone is racist" without actually watching it?
Because that’s what the previews were implying. The secret “racist” cabal of white people who control everything. If that’s not what it was about, then HBO needs to edit their previews better.
This post was edited on 8/6/20 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 8/6/20 at 12:05 pm to Saint Alfonzo
I'll refer to Knives Out again
Actors and Directors do this all the time and then the show/movie isn't anywhere close to what they imply
yes, the Watchmen had racist elements, but it wasn't the entire show
I enjoyed Watchmen
Actors and Directors do this all the time and then the show/movie isn't anywhere close to what they imply
yes, the Watchmen had racist elements, but it wasn't the entire show
I enjoyed Watchmen
Posted on 8/6/20 at 12:19 pm to Salmon
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I'll refer to Knives Out again Actors and Directors do this all the time and then the show/movie isn't anywhere close to what they imply yes, the Watchmen had racist elements, but it wasn't the entire show I enjoyed Watchmen
Knives Out had about two minutes of political dialogue which had no impact on the plot. The entirety of Watchmen was about racism.
Posted on 8/6/20 at 12:24 pm to Saint Alfonzo
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Knives Out had about two minutes of political dialogue which had no impact on the plot.
exactly my point
the director called Knives Out a "take down of Trumps America"
just at some of these articles
LINK
LINK
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The entirety of Watchmen was about racism.
no it wasn't
it was a driver for a lot of the plot
This post was edited on 8/6/20 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 8/6/20 at 12:29 pm to Salmon
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exactly my point the director called Knives Out a "take down of Trumps America"
Yeah, we agree on this point. They said it was one thing to garner attention when it really had very little to do with it.
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no it wasn't it was a driver for a lot of the plot
We disagree here. Were there other things in Watchmen? Sure. But the major arc of the whole series was racism in America, exactly what the creator said it was about.
Posted on 8/6/20 at 12:36 pm to Salmon
quote:Wasn't that a BBC product that HBO bought?
the HBO "His Dark Materials" series on HBO wasn't "woke" by any measure
it just wasn't very good
Posted on 8/6/20 at 12:38 pm to BugAC
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By what standard of measure?
quote:By this standard. Law & Order SVU and Big Bang Theory are the greatest tv shows ever created.
How many seasons?
What a crock of shite.
Posted on 8/6/20 at 12:40 pm to BugAC
quote:This is fricking rich.
Just like i don't watch Euphoria, Girls, High Maintenance, or any other show that presents "Coastal Grunge" Life as what "real America" is about.
Posted on 8/6/20 at 12:50 pm to Roaad
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We're telling the story of heroes that go on a quest to disrupt white supremacy
Where are these masses starving for this type of "entertainment"? This seems to me to appeal only to a very small, niche group.
This post was edited on 8/6/20 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 8/6/20 at 12:59 pm to JBeam
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This is fricking rich.
You're welcome to expound upon this high minded quip.
Posted on 8/6/20 at 1:05 pm to BugAC
I'd love for you to explain how having numerous seasons somehow makes a show better than others? That's just a really stupid metric to go by nowadays.
As far as those other shows you mentioned. They clearly aren't geared towards your demographic. It has very little to do with HBO trying to push (as you call it) "Coastal Grunge" as more American than others. HBO just does a good job of having a diverse line up of shows. Hell, I don't even think GIRLS is a very good series. But it opened the door for other series in its realm to be made (You're The Worst, High Maintenace, Master Of None etc).
As far as those other shows you mentioned. They clearly aren't geared towards your demographic. It has very little to do with HBO trying to push (as you call it) "Coastal Grunge" as more American than others. HBO just does a good job of having a diverse line up of shows. Hell, I don't even think GIRLS is a very good series. But it opened the door for other series in its realm to be made (You're The Worst, High Maintenace, Master Of None etc).
Posted on 8/6/20 at 1:12 pm to JBeam
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I'd love for you to explain how having numerous seasons somehow makes a show better than others?
Well, maybe you should have followed the entire thread? Specifically the previous page.
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They clearly aren't geared towards your demographic. It has very little to do with HBO trying to push (as you call it) "Coastal Grunge" as more American than others. HBO just does a good job of having a diverse line up of shows. Hell, I don't even think GIRLS is a very good series. But it opened the door for other series in its realm to be made (You're The Worst, High Maintenace, Master Of None etc).
Well, yeah. It clearly, is not my demographic. It is a very niche group that they seem to keep churning out new series about as filler until something good can come through, like a Game of Thrones (ignoring the finale) or a Chernobyll. They boast each of these shite series that last no more than 2 or 3 seasons and end abrubtly as "thought provoking" or "important", when no one really gives a shite about this. It's Vice TV with a bigger budget.
This post was edited on 8/6/20 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 8/6/20 at 1:24 pm to BugAC
quote:High Maintenance has been on for four seasons and was previously a web series for three seasons before that. Also, it's been proven that certain series don't need a dozen seasons to complete a story or have an audience (LOST could have learned something from this). It's pretty clear that you have something against niche shows. Which is pretty weird thing to have beef with.
hey boast each of these shite series that last no more than 2 or 3 seasons and end abrubtly as "thought provoking" or "important", when no one really gives a shite about this.
Furthermore, I highly doubt shows like Euphoria are going anywhere. Especially since it was most recently nominated for multiple emmys.
Que the coastal elitist's/Hollywood doesn't under America post in 3....2...1
This post was edited on 8/6/20 at 1:26 pm
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