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re: Ken Burns series Country Music is fantastic.

Posted on 9/25/19 at 7:46 am to
Posted by Mr Sausage
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Posted on 9/25/19 at 7:46 am to
don't you shite talk Townes.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 9/25/19 at 9:02 am to
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surprised they didn't mention Linda Ronstadt

I'm glad that they didn't, since they were denigrating every artist who crossed into Country except for Emmy Lou and Ray Charles.
Posted by VOR
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Posted on 9/25/19 at 9:05 am to
They praised Emmylou. And rightfully so.
Ray Charles, as well.
I’m glad they discussed Gram Parsons.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 9/25/19 at 9:40 am to
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Tonight's episode almost lost me when they were talking about some of the artsy guys like Townes van Zandt and The Flying Burrito Brothers, but it picked back up quickly.
That was the best part.

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Really surprised they didn't mention Linda Ronstadt, who has the best voice of any artist across any genre in my lifetime.
Not me.
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 9/25/19 at 10:02 am to
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They mentioned him tonight. But his big episode is tomorrow night.




I need to start from the beginning. I caught last night and was hooked.

Waylon is my favorite country singer so I’ll probably just end up watching tonight
This post was edited on 9/25/19 at 10:03 am
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 9/25/19 at 10:18 am to
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Waylon is my favorite country singer so I’ll probably just end up watching tonight

The Waylon episode was great. You can watch it on PBS.org.
Posted by SSpaniel
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Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:11 pm to
Is tonight the last episode? Because... heck... I'd like to see a few more. Perhaps one episode devoted entirely to the Florida Georgia Line and Luke Bryan.

I'd also like to hear more about the Goat Testicle Implants to cure male virility problems. I don't need it, but... I mean, who doesn't want to hear about that? But that's another topic, I guess.
Posted by Ghost of Colby
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Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:19 pm to
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Tonight's episode almost lost me when they were talking about some of the artsy guys like Townes van Zandt and The Flying Burrito Brothers


Understandable, but that was my favorite part, and I’ve been waiting for this episode, “Are You Sure Hank Done It This Way?” because I knew it would focus on my favorites Willie & Waylon and the outlaw movement.

Townes, Guy Clark, and Gram Parsons aren’t well known, but were so great and influential. All were great songwriters.

My favorite parts were the background cameos by a young Steve Earle hanging around Rodney Crowell and Townes, and James Burton’s legendary pink paisley guitar performing with Emmylou.

Jerry Jeff Walker, Kinky Friedman and The Texas Jewboys getting a mention was a bonus.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
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Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:50 pm to
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My favorite parts were the background cameos


I felt bad for Billy Joe Shaver. He's in one of the photos, and they play part of Waylong singing his song "Honky Tonk Heroes," but they never mention Billy Joe by name. Which pretty much sums up his career in Nashville.
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
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Posted on 9/25/19 at 3:01 pm to
The best part of the episode is at the end where they chronicle the journey of the song Pancho & Lefty. Written by Townes Van Zandt, picked up by Emmylou Harris via influence from Gram Parsons, to Willie Nelson and Merle Haggard making the song legendary. Incredible part to me was that Willie had never heard that song prior to that night and it was recorded at 4AM by a half asleep Merle!

I am also a huge Waylon fan and think they could have spent more time on him this series. If not for him these artists would still be chained to the corporations. Waylon and the outlaw movement changed everything and it's still happening today.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 9/25/19 at 3:28 pm to
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My favorite parts were the background cameos by a young Steve Earle hanging around Rodney Crowell and Townes, and James Burton’s legendary pink paisley guitar performing with Emmylou.

We got one image of John Prine in that group shot at Hillbilly Central Studios.
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/25/19 at 4:52 pm to
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I felt bad for Billy Joe Shaver. He's in one of the photos, and they play part of Waylong singing his song "Honky Tonk Heroes,"
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I am also a huge Waylon fan and think they could have spent more time on him this series.


I agree with both, but it’s impossible to cover every artist, or give everyone their proper time. They could have dedicated the entire episode to Waylon, and still wouldn’t have covered everything.

I didn’t think of it last night, but not mentioning Billy Joe Shaver was odd, especially since his songs were huge for the movement. Waylon even recorded an entire album of Shaver songs.
Posted by Othello
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Posted on 9/25/19 at 7:38 pm to
One of my only complaints is no mention of the Band. I mean few bands ever captured America and Country as well as they did. Even if all the members were from Canada except Levon Helm.

Overall, I think it's an outstanding series and I've enjoyed it all so far.

Outlaw country will always be my favorite because I heard it the most growing up.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
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Posted on 9/25/19 at 7:50 pm to
excited for tonight as this is the music I grew up on with George Strait and Garth
Posted by Jack Ruby
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Posted on 9/25/19 at 7:55 pm to
Damn I forgot how great these 80s songs were. Can't believe though they haven't mentioned Keith Whitley yet.

Also this Judds songs had such harce and emotion and smoothness to them. There was something truly magic about that Era of country. Garth took it to another level, but he was basically a louder, showier Chris Ledoux/George Strait
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
21144 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 7:56 pm to
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The best part of the episode is at the end where they chronicle the journey of the song Pancho & Lefty. Written by Townes Van Zandt, picked up by Emmylou Harris via influence from Gram Parsons, to Willie Nelson and Merle Haggard making the song legendary. Incredible part to me was that Willie had never heard that song prior to that night and it was recorded at 4AM by a half asleep Merle!


Yeah, it actually made me feel emotional, seeing all those threads woven together. Also brought back some memories from working in Texas dancehalls and going to shows and seeing Merle standing on the steps of his bus.

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it’s impossible to cover every artist, or give everyone their proper time. They could have dedicated the entire episode to Waylon, and still wouldn’t have covered everything.


I know and I agree; you can have either a narrative or an index, but you can't have both. I think the series has done a beautiful job of being inclusive while maintaining a coherent narrative that ties things together. Just beautiful. My comment about Billy Joe Shaver wasn't really a criticism of the overall work, I just love Billy Joe and was imagining how he might see that as a reflection of his experiences in the Nashville machine.

Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 9/25/19 at 8:00 pm to
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One of my only complaints is no mention of the Band. I mean few bands ever captured America and Country as well as they did.


I'm a huge fan of The Band, but I think the focus on the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band kind of covered that spirit, and the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band may have been more influential in reviving interest in traditional country music among younger listeners. So I guess I would kind of take the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band part for somewhat summing up some of my feelings for The Band.
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
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Posted on 9/25/19 at 8:53 pm to
I’m gonna go ahead and say that for me, this is Ken Burns’ best documentary series.

Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63486 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 9:23 pm to
I’m glad they spent some time on

Emmylou Harris. I’ve been in love with that woman for decades. The times I’ve seen her live have been transcendent.
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 9/25/19 at 9:27 pm to
Great episode tonight. I only cried twice, Where Have You Been and when Johnny died. Cash singing "Hurt" is such a powerful song. Listened to that alot when I was going through a divorce back then. Still brings tears and makes me think about what's important and to not lose sight of that.
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