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re: Ken Burns series Country Music is fantastic.

Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:44 pm to
Posted by upgrade
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Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:44 pm to
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DON'T GET ABOVE YOUR RAISIN (1984 -1996)


Very fitting to stop there. The mid 90's is pretty much when country music died.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 9/19/19 at 8:01 pm to
I've seen the first 4 and can't wait for the next 4 episodes.

Ken Burns has done some very good documentaries over the years and his very first "The Civil War" had me sold on his ability as a filmmaker.

Peter Coyote is an excellent choice as narrator as he weaves you through the story without being an intrusion to what's being shown on the screen.

Hank Williams and Patsy Cline were highlighted last night and their ends came much too soon, Hank's by his own demons and Patsy by a quirk of fate.

I can't wait until they touch on George Jones, Merle Haggard, Willie Nelson and others that really came into their own in the 60's and 70's.


ETA: They really highlighted Johnny Cash last night too and I didn't know he had such a hard life as a young kid, but like many country stars who also came out of poverty, he certainly overcame it.
This post was edited on 9/19/19 at 8:05 pm
Posted by chinese58
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Posted on 9/19/19 at 8:37 pm to
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Very fitting to stop there. The mid 90's is pretty much when country music died.


I haven't listened to much country music since the 70's, but I recently bought a couple of Colter Wall, and Dead South, CD's to listen to in the car.

The Dead South - In Hell I'll Be In Good Company on Youtube

COLTER WALL - IMAGINARY APPALACHIA - Sleeping on the Blacktop on Youtube
Posted by ATCTx
Member since Nov 2016
1054 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 9:11 pm to
Watched 2nd episode today and can't wait for Hank tomorrow. The narrator is, as usual, fantastic. I'm also looking forward to the Waylon/Willie/Outlaw episode and TOO am glad they are ending in the mid 90s as only a few artists since (Alison Krauss) would be worth much time.

I have learned so much about pre-Hank country and was unaware of those who started it all like the Carter Family and Jimmie Rodgers along with, later, the great Bob Wills/Tommy Duncan, Tubb, and Autry.

I got chills in episode 2 when they documented the Carter Family broadcasting a regular show from near Del Rio, TX that went across part of the country and said that three young kids were listening and inspired to pursue music: a young boy from Littlefield, TX named Waylon, a poor country boy from Arkansas (Cash) and a boy named Chester (Chet) Atkins. Had that show not aired, who knows....
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35521 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 9:35 am to
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They really highlighted Johnny Cash last night too and I didn't know he had such a hard life as a young kid, but like many country stars who also came out of poverty, he certainly overcame it.


It's well documented in the movie about him.

I found it quite interesting that the Carter families music was the first music that he loved and he ended up marrying into the Carter family.

Families - family's?
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35521 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 9:35 am to
I also didn't know that country music originated in southwestern Virginia.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36038 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 9:38 am to
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They really highlighted Johnny Cash last night too and I didn't know he had such a hard life as a young kid, but like many country stars who also came out of poverty, he certainly overcame it.

Surprised that they didn't feature any Dewey Cox. Their stories are oddly similar.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11443 posts
Posted on 9/21/19 at 9:57 am to
quote:

I've seen the first 4 and can't wait for the next 4 episodes.

Ken Burns has done some very good documentaries over the years and his very first "The Civil War" had me sold on his ability as a filmmaker.

Peter Coyote is an excellent choice as narrator as he weaves you through the story without being an intrusion to what's being shown on the screen.

Hank Williams and Patsy Cline were highlighted last night and their ends came much too soon, Hank's by his own demons and Patsy by a quirk of fate.

I can't wait until they touch on George Jones, Merle Haggard, Willie Nelson and others that really came into their own in the 60's and 70's.


ETA: They really highlighted Johnny Cash last night too and I didn't know he had such a hard life as a young kid, but like many country stars who also came out of poverty, he certainly overcame it.



I just watched that episode last night. Awesome!

Got me thinking about the term "white privilege". I can only imagine what Johnny Cash, The Mattox Family, and Hank Sr. would think about that term.

Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/21/19 at 12:16 pm to
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Got me thinking about the term "white privilege". I can only imagine what Johnny Cash, The Mattox Family, and Hank Sr. would think about that term.


Since they actually witnessed their black friends, band mates, and contemporaries refused service throughout a good portion of America, I’d guess they’d understand it better than you or I.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
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Posted on 9/21/19 at 1:47 pm to
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They really highlighted Johnny Cash last night too and I didn't know he had such a hard life as a young kid, but like many country stars who also came out of poverty,


They didn't touch on it much, but it's amazing how similar all the Sun guys were: Presley, Cash, Perkins and Jerry Lee.

- All were dirt poor and / or sharecroppers.
- All were raised Pentecostal and struggled with thoughts of going to hell.
- All were exposed to, worked with or were friends with black people.
- All were playing an amalgam of country, pop, gospel and blues independant of each other.
- Elvis, Cash and Jerry Lee all lost brothers in youth which impacted them deeply.
- All became addicted to drugs or booze.
Posted by Sayre
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/22/19 at 4:20 am to
Charley Pride looks great and is sharp as hell at 85.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36038 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:28 am to
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Charley Pride looks great and is sharp as hell at 85.
Louisiana native Faron Young is coming out looking well from the stories told in this series. (I mainly remember him from his BC Powder commercials.)
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17288 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 5:06 pm to
Reading recommendation for fans of this series:

Country by Nick Tosches
Posted by Amadeo
Member since Jan 2004
4813 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 6:12 pm to
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Burns is knocking this out of the park. Episode 3 was mostly about Hank Williams. “The Hillbilly Shakespeare.” It was perfectly done. Didn’t pull punches about Hank’s personal problems, but really shone a light on his unmatched genius.

It's nearly impossible to wrap my mind around the fact that he was only 29 years old when he died.
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Patsy Cline’s voice still gives me chills.

Perfection
Posted by PawnMaster
Down Yonder
Member since Nov 2014
1649 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 8:39 pm to
Cool how the women of country music took care of one another.

Merle’s story is great.

Possum’s Panties

The state of Mississippi has produced a bunch of country singers.
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
22079 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 8:48 pm to
Could have given Hee Haw a lot more time in tonight’s episode. Maybe there will be more tomorrow, but lots of ground to cover. Hopefully more Dolly.
Posted by chinese58
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Member since Jun 2004
30386 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 9:20 pm to
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Faron Young/// BC Powder commercials.)
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I'm wit chu Faron!
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
11174 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 9:38 pm to
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Louisiana native Faron Young is coming out looking well from the stories told in this series.


Faron Young was very respected in Nashville. I’ve heard people like Waylon and Kris Kristofferson talk about getting the nod of approval by Faron was huge for their careers when they first came to Nashville. He could be a hard arse, but also helped a lot of young artists in the 60’s and 70’s.

Also, I keep seeing Faron Young, Webb Pierce, and Lefty Frizzell mentioned as big influences to artists. All those guys, along with Johnny Cash were stars of the Louisiana Hayride.

The Hayride doesn’t get enough credit for shaping and influencing the direction of Country and Rock music. Of course most know Hank Williams and Elvis made many appearances at the Hayride, even after they became stars, but the its influence goes well beyond its two biggest stars.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22747 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 9:56 pm to
I haven't been watching much of the series yet, but was the hayride featured very heavily?? It was basically the intersection of country and rock a Billy and want later became rock and roll.

For about 5 yrs there, from about 53-58, it was more influential than the grand ole port because of the talent that was fostered there.

You can argue that the two biggest rock and roll and country artists ever were mainstays there during that period, Johnny Cash and Elvis.

I've actually talked to a couple old timers from my home area near the border in southwest Arkansas who played there regularly back in the 50s. They had some crazy stories. Apparently there was a bar or restaurant in Shreveport that they all went to and had a hangout in the back that nobody else could get to. The hayride building itself would have been in the fricking middle of nowhere. Hell its still kind of just out there in a field near Benton.
Posted by sumbodyorsum1
Member since May 2019
1606 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:14 pm to
The Hayride was talked about a few times.

They talked about how the grand ole opry didn't like Elvis and whatnot, but the Hayride loved him.

I can't remember the other had success at the Hayride. It could have been Cash as well.
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