re: Joe Rogan Netflix special

Dillon’s stand up is actually pretty funny. His ice cream joke is greatness. Rogan should stick to podcasting. There were a couple of funny parts to his stand up but for the most part it was just really low hanging fruit and bro humor comedy. The latter being almost Shane Gillis like, except Shane Gillis makes it work and is 1000x the stand up comedian Rogan is. Rogan’s stand up was almost insulting can’t believe people would find that to be a great stand up set.

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How did he fail as an actor?

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He talks about it. The baseball movie.

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He was a successful comedian before JRE. Was he an arena act? No. But he filled clubs and theaters.

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Not successful enough to build a career off of. That's important. If you couldn't build a career off of your comedy (get sitcoms, get movie roles, etc.) you were a failed comedian. Fear Factor was more from him working for the UFC than being a successful comedian. Why would you want a silly comedian hosting a show about pushing yourself to the limits with gross out stunts?

He didn't fill theaters, and was basically a club regular until he got kicked out of the Comedy Store. Regulars aren't successful, they are just reliable. Once again, Rogan loved comedy more than comedy loved Rogan. Those are facts. Go watch his early bits, they blow. His only comedic claim to fame was destroying Carlos Mencia. That was a "club regular" thing to do, as anyone with a career wouldn't have stepped up to drop that guy on stage for fear of losing...A GODDAMN CAREER.

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Ah. There it is. Repeating some made up nonsense you read or heard someone else say. It’s ok that you don’t like him. But why say things like this?

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Come on, we've all heard him with comedians on, waxing poetically about how comedians are these upper echelon beings we can only admire from afar. I'm mocking him, chief. I say things like that because we have to constantly hear this shite from him. He's open to criticism, and nothing I've stated about him is untrue. And yes...I listen to his podcast, because it's fun to listen to...when we don't have to hear him drone on with his comedian buddies about comedy.

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He talks about it. The baseball movie

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That was a series...and yes it was cancelled.

He also talks about how he's only auditioned twice in his life, and never really wanted to be an actor. He got NewsRadio after his cancelled series. NewsRadio was a successful series.

So his first ever acting job that he got failed, and his second was successful. And he moved on to other things after that because he didn't like acting (which he's said many times). You still going with "failed actor"? Seems disingenuous.

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If you couldn't build a career off of your comedy (get sitcoms, get movie roles, etc.) you were a failed comedian.

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what? Let me see if I got this right. If you do well enough to fill clubs and theaters, but don't want to do movies and sitcoms, that means you are a failed comedian?

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He didn't fill theaters, and was basically a club regular until he got kicked out of the Comedy Store.

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He has been touring since 2006 and was playing theaters and clubs, starting that year, and continued throughout his career. Are you actually claiming that he's just playing to empty theaters, and still managing to book more and more throughout his career?

Yes, he was a regular at the Comedy Store because that is where he lived and used it to practice and try out new material.

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Come on, we've all heard him with comedians on, waxing poetically about how comedians are these upper echelon beings we can only admire from afar.

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Find me an example then. I've listened to lots of his podcasts over the years and have never gotten that impression. I'm not saying I don't believe you and my mind can't be changed, but I have the exact opposite impression. Does he talk about comedy and only things comedians would know because you'd have to be one to understand? Sure. But you paint this picture of him like he's some snooty comedian looking down on everyone else when that couldn't be further from the truth.

And I agree with you that his comedy bits are not very good, mostly. But comedy is subjective, and it is objectively false to claim he is a failed comedian, for reasons I've already stated.

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Listen, you are heavily bought in

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If that makes you feel better about your point of view, go for it, but that isn't an accurate statement. I've already stated several things that do not jive with the idea that I'm some "heavily bought-in" fanboy.

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Have a good day, sir. I don't care how much you care.

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Care? You cared enough to post in this thread. Then all of a sudden you "don't care" when your view is challenged?

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Can we talk about it on this board?

Or can we only talk about certain parts of it?

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Can't tell which is more curdled... jokes like this or Rogan still bringing up PizzaGate and Michelle Obama somehow secretly being a man in 2024.

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Rogan's comedy is OK. That's it. I see why it was never the reason he made it as a comedian. Hell, until I discovered his podcast, he was the Fear Factor guy. Then when I started watching the UFC, hey it's that podcast guy. Then I discovered he did comedy. That's telling on how successful as a comedian that guy was during the mid 90's to the 2000's.

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So rogan released a comedy special before he was on fear factor.

One could argue his comedic career led to other avenues. Saying its was a waste is wrong. Especially since he owns a fricking comedy club.

You have formed an uniformed opnion.

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I'd rather not waste my day debating this dumb shite.

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Right but you wasted time posting your uniformed opinion in this thread and when get called out you run.

In my world, Rogan broke out on NewsRadio (where he played himself, a conspiracy theorist), leveraged that fame to go on to Fear Factor, then I found out he was a stand-up when he went after Carlos Mencia on stage, then he blew up on podcasting. I don't watch mixed martial arts and had no idea he was a thing.

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But comedy is subjective

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I'll agree with that. I liked his comedy from around the time range of 2006-2010 the best.
I didn't watch this special yet, but I think I'm able to anticipate what it'll be like to some degree. The same way I'm able to anticipate that he won't "steel man" arguments against people that he kind of kowtows to, like Jordan Peterson, the way that he did with Bart Sibrel.
I think I just liked Joe from from back around that time period more than the person he became as the years went on and the podcast became more popular.

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Nothing crazy or too out there. Towards the end he drops the "R" word and "F" word but not the "N" word.

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I did actually enjoy that section. Fairly fun pokes at his cancellation attempts.