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re: Is Into the Wild as rewatchable for everyone else..
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:03 am to WITNESS23
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:03 am to WITNESS23
I guess im stuck on the glorifying part, as you say. that and the stubbornness
Its a story plain and simple that ends in tragedy. He paid for his naivety with his life. I dont see that as glorification how its being told. Other than you dont like that they made a movie about him?
And the "stubbornness", yea. I guess. But obviously it wasnt the screw you kind. Just an irrational confidence of youth type thing. Which again, HE PAID FOR WITH HIS LIFE
I just see it more as a story of a kid that grew up in the suburbs that felt strongly about the false comforts of materialism. Largely because his parents were so utterly miserable
I'm just thrown off by the differing interpretations here is all
Its a story plain and simple that ends in tragedy. He paid for his naivety with his life. I dont see that as glorification how its being told. Other than you dont like that they made a movie about him?
And the "stubbornness", yea. I guess. But obviously it wasnt the screw you kind. Just an irrational confidence of youth type thing. Which again, HE PAID FOR WITH HIS LIFE
I just see it more as a story of a kid that grew up in the suburbs that felt strongly about the false comforts of materialism. Largely because his parents were so utterly miserable
I'm just thrown off by the differing interpretations here is all
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Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:30 am to Chef Leppard
It's next on my list....though, admittedly, it's been next on my list for a while it seems
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:30 am to Chef Leppard
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I'm just thrown off by the differing interpretations here is all
I was too online. I found it very interesting and but I felt there were holes in the story so I wanted to find out more.
Then I read everything I told you and I was like well shite.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:32 am to WITNESS23
I always thought it was pretty clear that the kid was totally ok with the idea of dying out there
Posted on 3/11/15 at 7:05 am to rockchlkjayhku11
I commend the kid for having the guts to do what a lot of people say they will, but won't, and that is to walk away from the system, if only for a brief time. Maybe to him life was then punching a time card and worrying about $$$$.
He clearly wasn't prepared, and he paid the ultimate price for it. But to knock him for other reasons I just can't see it.
He clearly wasn't prepared, and he paid the ultimate price for it. But to knock him for other reasons I just can't see it.
This post was edited on 3/11/15 at 8:48 am
Posted on 3/11/15 at 8:29 am to lsufan112001
There seem to be two kinds of people. Those who see Chris McCandless as some sort of noble but tragic figure, and those who think, "That kid was nuts."
I read the book and loved it. A big part of what I liked were all the stories of other adventurers who survived incredible circumstances in the wild. Chris' story was interesting too, but I just kept thinking how woefully unprepared and naive he was.
I read the book and loved it. A big part of what I liked were all the stories of other adventurers who survived incredible circumstances in the wild. Chris' story was interesting too, but I just kept thinking how woefully unprepared and naive he was.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 8:32 am to JombieZombie
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I think it's a bit of a sappy bore.
+1 Emile Hirsch plays it with an air of smugness that's a real turnoff
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:01 am to lsufan112001
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I commend the kid for having the guts to do what a lot of people say they will, but won't, and that is to walk away from the system, if only for a brief time. Maybe to him life was then punching a time card and worrying about $$$$.
What he did took 0 guts. All it took was a lack of understanding, a small view of the world, and a lot of selfishness.
Also..
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having the guts to do what a lot of people say they will, but won't,
This kind of paints the rest of us as having no guts.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:05 am to Chef Leppard
I absolutely love this movie.
I especially love the old guy he meets just before he goes to alaska. The one who teaches him how to work with leather (I believer).
A lot of people don't like the movie basically because they think the main character is stupid... which is debatable... and also doesn't make the movie bad.
I especially love the old guy he meets just before he goes to alaska. The one who teaches him how to work with leather (I believer).
A lot of people don't like the movie basically because they think the main character is stupid... which is debatable... and also doesn't make the movie bad.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:05 am to Chef Leppard
How are you going to act like they havent glorified his death? People come from thousands of miles to pose with his van and honor him. Literally, the only thing different he did from thousands of other people is that he was a dumbfrick and died.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:12 am to WITNESS23
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He thought he was living wild in Alaska and a frontiersman but he found a van for shelter that was used by hunters as a shelter. Did he not think "how the hell did this van get here?"
I mean it was still pretty wild the way he was living.
Just from watching the movie it seems absurd he didn't make a better effort to cross the river or find another area where a crossing was possible.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:18 am to RandySavage
Posted on 3/11/15 at 10:59 am to ATLsuTiger
I like the book and the movie. Book is better, obviously.
It's a fascinating story. Kid did something a lot of us dream of doing, he just did it in a reckless manner. The movie doesn't go into enough detail about how much awesome shite he got into before Alaska.
I don't think he's worthy of praise, but it's still a pretty cool story he crafted for himself, however short lived.
It's a fascinating story. Kid did something a lot of us dream of doing, he just did it in a reckless manner. The movie doesn't go into enough detail about how much awesome shite he got into before Alaska.
I don't think he's worthy of praise, but it's still a pretty cool story he crafted for himself, however short lived.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:18 pm to Hester Carries
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How are you going to act like they havent glorified his death?
How are you going to act like they did?
I mean his death gained him notoriety. And they celebrated his short arse life in a way by painting him as a huge hearted person. Which I don't have any reason to disbelieve from the account given
Giving away 24 grand and hitchhiking to Alaska is NOT something all of us could do, or even want to obviously. But the kid had the courage of his convictions. Which is not that common. Even if you see his views as misguided, which the movie kinda depicted him as somewhat recognizing at the end before his death
Again, I felt like the movie was very careful in showing that his views were largely shaped by a very dysfunctional family life. He was so fractured by his parents and their loveless existence that he disappeared after 4 years as an A student in college, without a word or a trace. Thats pretty damn hurt and disconnected. many people use the same background as an excuse to turn to drugs, alcohol, etc. He obviously wasnt a mean spirited soul. He had several encounters and opportunities to abandon his path and join those that loved him after spending time with him
So I get that they romanticized his character. Which is maybe the same thing. But I have no reason to believe from accounts that he wasnt a good hearted person just out in the world looking for answers he felt he couldn't find any other way.
I just see him as a sympathetic figure. Not a universal opinion obviously
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:27 pm to Rohan2Reed
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smugness
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Rohan2Reed
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:55 pm to Chef Leppard
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Is Into the Wild as rewatchable for everyone else..
Considering I barely made it through the first time, I'm going to say no. Will never watch it again I imagine.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 1:05 pm to Chef Leppard
Each time I've rewatched it as I've gotten older, I've gotten more irritated with the main character.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 1:14 pm to LoveThatMoney
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Considering I barely made it through the first time, I'm going to say no.
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LoveThatMoney
Well there's a real head scratcher
Posted on 3/11/15 at 1:50 pm to Chef Leppard
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Considering I barely made it through the first time, I'm going to say no.
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LoveThatMoney
Well there's a real head scratcher
I've said this before and I'll say it again: My Username does not encompass my personality.
I took the phrase from Talladega Nights because that line always gives me a chuckle. I have always had an incessant itch to quit out and head for the mountains, get away from the rat race and seek solitude and peace.
But this movie was just not that good. It was simply a series of vignettes in this unbelievably unlikable, immature fool's life, who set out to conquer nature with no idea how to do so while leaving everything and everyone who ever loved him behind. His political views were infantile and ran through the movie like a bad grease stain, echoing Sean Penn's own political views. While Emile Hirsch did a fine job and was the reason to keep watching, there just was not enough there for me to connect with. When he died, I thought, "Whelp, that's what you get, idiot." Yet I felt like the whole movie was this an attempt at the glorification of someone "brave enough" to go out and "conquer the elements," shirk the responsibilities of society and civilization and return to a primal state. But it was all masturbatory to me.
Sorry, it's just not my movie. To me, there are plenty of movies with great soundtracks and great acting that include a better plot and better characters, and I will spend my free time watching those instead of re-watching this one.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 2:27 pm to LoveThatMoney
It's pretty amazing how much conversation his story generated, regardless of where you come down.
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