re: Infinity war reaction and SPOILERS thread

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I have a few questions.

1. How inevitable was it that Thanos gets the time stone without Strange giving it to thanos.
If thanos doesn’t have the time stone, it’s impossible for him to get Vision’s stone.

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I'm looking at it this way-

Earth was next on his list, he was going to decimate us. Sure, it's possible Thor could kill him without the extra Stones, but Earth would be massacred still.

Without the extra Stones, Thanos would fight more carefully, not expose himself to risks. Also might be more brutal in his approach, since he is just invading and slaughtering.
That's not a win.

I don't know that Tony surviving is the key, I think that was a byproduct. I think Thanos has to have the Time Stone in order to fully "win", see the results, and reconsider. Now, I do think that swapping the Stone to spare Tony was an act that was intended to plant a seed in Thanos' mind, that mankind values every life, and we will save every single person we can. Maybe it will cause Thanos to think about the virtues of humanity as he sits around afterwards.

I also think he couldn't take the Time Stone by force, if he killed Strange he would lose it forever- and lose the reset option.

Strange is playing the odds to get a complete win, to reset basically everything Thanos has done; not to try to stop him down the road.

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YOU CANT LEAVE GROOT DEAD

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That one right there hit me hard as well. Rocket really had to watch his best-friend/son die a 2nd time right in front of his eyes. That is just not fair.

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That one right there hit me hard as well. Rocket really had to watch his best-friend/son die a 2nd time right in front of his eyes. That is just not fair.

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"Me, personally, I have a lot to lose"

loses everything


Also, is Rocket the only confirmed post -phase 1 character to live?

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I, for one, think this will happen. And it will be beautiful, if done right.

Stark has lived his life. His nightmare is living to see everyone else die (we see that in AoU).
Pete's his son, in spirit at least. Watching him fade away helplessly will haunt him to his dying day.

I think this will be the last resurrection we see, after the heroes have already won the game. Tony will probably have the opportunity to say goodbye to Pepper, the others will say something like "Tony, you'll die if you do this", and Stark will say "I know".

Maybe will be involving the Soul Stone, and Tony will fade away (holding an Infinity Stone as a mortal), with enough time to tell Peter that he's proud of him before going.
Soul Stone- what does Tony have to sacrifice, in order to use it? I know Pepper is the easy answer, but I also think that's not the correct one. What does Tony love most? Himself?

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Well, since the film has focus on trading lives - Tony, The Tony-Strange Discussion, Vision-Wanda-Steve, etc. - the clear narrative endpoint is easy: about half of the characters/heroes we know disappeared. The Stone is going to ask for a sacrifice at the end of the next film and certain heroes will have to give up/fade into the stone, to rescue everyone else. It won't be just Tony - and it may be like for like.....


The old Avengers give up their lives for the "new" Avengers.

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bros, i highly suggest watching Justice League immediately after Infinity War just to laugh at Snyder and Whedon.

fricking Steppenwolf

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I've tried hard to avoid this subject

Justice League pales in comparison to Avengers. Heck, I'm not really certain I would put JL above the Power Rangers movie on certain aspects (like final battle CGI, or onscreen Main Villain presence, for example), and I could barely sit through that movie.

Compared to Infinity War... just not even worthy of discussion. It's like comparing Star Crash or Battle Beyond The Stars (no, not even Battlestar Galactica or Flash Gordon) to Star Wars.
That's a shame, because DC has the material and characters to rival this. They just don't have the vision to. That, and Marvel wins because it came first. Wouldn't matter if DC comes out with a technically better series of movies now, it's still the "me too" copy.

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there's got to be something going on with the hulk that will come out next movie.

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I just took it as he got his arse whooped by Thanos and he didn't want to come out to have that happen again.

Howard the Duck was better looking than Steppenwolf

Vader vs Thanos...Vader would win in a few seconds

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Well, since the film has focus on trading lives - Tony, The Tony-Strange Discussion, Vision-Wanda-Steve, etc. - the clear narrative endpoint is easy: about half of the characters/heroes we know disappeared. The Stone is going to ask for a sacrifice at the end of the next film and certain heroes will have to give up/fade into the stone, to rescue everyone else. It won't be just Tony - and it may be like for like.....


The old Avengers give up their lives for the "new" Avengers.

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Yeah, but Tony will be the poignant one. Steve has been the 'man out of time' awhile now; he's been ready to go see Peggy. He cares more for her than anyone in the modern world, the only other choice being the similarly time-displaced Bucky. He will welcome the chance to rest.
Bruce and Hulk, if finished, will welcome the peace that comes with closure.
Black Widow also has been ready to make up for past deeds.

Tony's going to have the option of continuing to live the perfect life (billionaire genius playboy philantropist superhero), who now will have a wife and family... or giving all that up so a poor kid from Queens can live.

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I don't think that matters at all. Just make a good superhero movie. It isn't that hard. You don't have to be different just to be different. It isn't working.

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Oh, I agree that better movies would help DC's cause tremendously. But still, they've already been beaten to the punch.

Let's say down the road that Aquaman and Green Lantern are covering Deadshot, so he can take out a big bad. Meanwhile Wonder Woman and Harley Quinn are mopping the floor with foot soldiers together, along with Superman and Shazam. And Batman is valiantly facing Darkseid somewhere else, hopelessly but nobly.
Marvel- been there done that, at a high level. With characters that are already more likable on the big screen than what DC's managed to scrape together.

No matter how well they might pull things together, it's no longer groundbreaking.