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re: I Watched Rogue One Again For The First Time Since The Theatre
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:08 pm to alajones
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:08 pm to alajones
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And Vader was in a scene earlier when he was talking with Krennic.
I said the Barad-Dur scene, which is really worthless and adds nothing. Give another one why he is relevant and not just shoved in here to get the fanboys to cream in their pants.
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:13 pm to OMLandshark
If you don't know who Vader is I can't help you.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:17 pm to OMLandshark
quote:And Rogue One didn't need to show Vader.
The thing is, in most WWII movies, you don't need to see Hitler in it.
quote:You don't think Rogue One established a great threat?
You establish a horrible Nazi who takes orders from him, and then you form your own opinion about Hitler because of it. It's how the original and Empire approached the Emperor.
quote:You're just arguing your own points without concern.
He makes no sense from an outsiders perspective. Hitler does as just an evil dictator from a distance.
Hitler is presumed an evil entity because, some Nazi. Why isn't Vader presumed because of some General? It's fairly clear the Empire isn't about freedom and niceties from the opening scene if I'm not mistaken. And Vader does make towering appearances in the movie. Him showing up at the end and slaughtering isn't beyond the scope of the movie.
But that's not even important. The truth is fairly simple, boxing Rogue One into a singular explanation of Star Wars story scope is manufacturing an argument. It wasn't meant to address lore and the main story arc. It's simply an action flick placed in the timeline prior to ANH.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:21 pm to OMLandshark
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If you saw this with no context of the Star Wars universe, it would be utterly forgettable and you'd be very confused by Darth Vader himself.
Oh shite, when you put it like that, I guess I was lucky to have gone in with a little knowledge of Star Wars!
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:25 pm to drizztiger
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And Rogue One didn't need to show Vader.
I agree, so why was he in the movie?
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You don't think Rogue One established a great threat?
The Emperor, sure, but not Vader.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:27 pm to PowerTool
Rogue One is the tits only second to Empire. Force Awakens felt more forced than Rogue One. The backstory of how the rebels came about the death star plans was done really well.
Yes, Whitaker sucked but it was no where near Jar Jar Binks or Hayden Christensen suck level.
Yes, Whitaker sucked but it was no where near Jar Jar Binks or Hayden Christensen suck level.
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 9:55 pm
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:40 pm to OMLandshark
quote:Because it's Star Wars and Vader is important, but also eye candy. And it's good to have the segue right into ANH and make Vader badass again. The prequels robbed Vader of his menace that started the franchise.
I agree, so why was he in the movie?
quote:The Empire is the threat. As you said, Vader in the Enforcer and it's great character. The Emperor is the mastermind, but to those oppressed, they see Star Destroyers, Stormtoopers, a new massive weapon as the immediate threats.
The Emperor, sure, but not Vader.
That's why it ties into the larger story arc so well. These people are boots on the ground, doing heroic deeds, they're not going to face the Emperor or Vader.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:51 pm to drizztiger
If you think Rouge One is a "bad" movie, you already had your mind made up to hate it.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:55 pm to LSUDAN1
Forest Whitaker's character had to be included to set up a future spin-off franchise, "Ghost Dog in Spaaaaaaaacce!!!"
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:08 pm to Purple Spoon
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If you think Rouge One is a "bad" movie, you already had your mind made up to hate it.
Or expect something passable out of it. I loved The Force Awakens, so why would I want this to fail?
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:17 pm to OMLandshark
quote:Passable? Really? Passable isn't a high standard, but it's that bad, huh?
Or expect something passable out of it.
quote:That's between you, God and your therapist.
I loved The Force Awakens, so why would I want this to fail?
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:23 pm to John Keating
It was pretty good, but the score was awful. Sounded like they threw it together a couple days before the release. It reminded me of Spaceballs.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:44 pm to JuiceTerry
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It was pretty good, but the score was awful. Sounded like they threw it together a couple days before the release.
If you ask me, and I know nobody did but that's the glory of the internet, this is the real problem. The score was forgettable and everything else suffered for it.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 8:25 am to John Keating
I didn't watch Rogue One til the BluRay came out, so maybe my expectations were more grounded. I personally loved it, and overall it's my favorite behind Empire and A New Hope. I could watch the final act over & over and not get bored with it...
Posted on 6/16/17 at 8:27 am to John Keating
One of the best Vader scenes of all time. The entire movie is worth watching for that 45 seconds.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 8:32 am to OMLandshark
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And Rogue One didn't need to show Vader.
I agree, so why was he in the movie?
Because it was one of the best scenes in the entire franchise.
I blew a load in my pants in the theater at that scene. And Im hard right now just thinking about it. How you could watch that scene and then wonder why it's there is mind blowing. And it's an awesome tie in right to the beginning of ANH.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 8:37 am to LucasP
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I'm honestly confused how any star wars fan can not like this movie? If you're not into star wars, then cool I get it (I'll fricking fight you, but I get it). But if you claim to like the original then how can you not like rogue one? It's got everything good about Star Wars.
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LucasP
this sums up my feelings
Posted on 6/16/17 at 8:44 am to LSUSUPERSTAR
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It was a million parsecs better than TFA.
Rey and Kylo are the best characters of the Disney Star Wars movies. They, along with the returning OT characters are miles better than anything in Rogue One (although I did like Krennic).
Other than the characters, though, I liked Rogue One better. It had the advantage of being set in the OT Rebellion vs Empire universe.
The TFA setting feels like a dull copy of that classic universe, with Snoke, Hux, the First Order, and the Resistance being cheap knockoffs of the Emperor, Tarkin, the Empire and Rebellion. Maybe that will change with the sequels.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 8:48 am to Breesus
You thought that I was so right that you broke YouTube? Way to be a dick.
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This post was edited on 6/16/17 at 9:03 am
Posted on 6/16/17 at 8:48 am to OMLandshark
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He just shows up in the end despite the fact he should have been directly involved in the third act if he were the Emperor's enforcer.
A frick load of movies do this. Especially trilogies. You introduce characters that are later explained.
If you watched Rogue One and then ANH you'd understand perfectly who Vader was.
With all due respect, and remember om saying with all due respect here OML, that post and your Hitler comparisons are some of the stupidest shite I have ever read on this website. Think about that.
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