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re: I don't get the hate for Skyler White [Breaking Bad *** SPOILERS ***]
Posted on 6/12/18 at 7:47 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Posted on 6/12/18 at 7:47 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Everybody loves the Godfather
And every one loves BB. Loving a movie/show doesn’t mean you have to love or admire the characters. Both are awful people but the GF is from a completely alien world to us, WW could be your neighbor or HS Chemistry teacher.
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Plus it's not like he was going around capping people non-stop.
Did you watch the show
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Would we be pilloring Walt if he worked for Pfizer and made a weight-loss drug that killed hundreds of thousands?
Aside from being an asinine moral equivalence, and I believe drugs should at least be decriminalized, if a weight loss drug killed a few dozen people it would be taken off the market and yes if he was the CEO he’d be viewed as a villain
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 7:57 am to H-Town Tiger
It has been awhile since I watched BB, but wasn't it implied that Skylar's smoking with Walt Jr in the womb was the cause of his MS.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:05 am to sorantable
I don't either. However, what's sad, Anna Gunn was actually getting death threats over her portrayal of Skyler. 
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:15 am to Perrydawg
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It has been awhile since I watched BB, but wasn't it implied that Skylar's smoking with Walt Jr in the womb was the cause of his MS.
I hope not, because MS is not a complication caused by smoking while pregnant.
ETA: I guess smoking COULD cause cerebral palsy, which is what Walt Jr. had, so you might be onto something, but I don't remember it ever being implied.
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 8:24 am
Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:17 am to sorantable
why is their a spoiler thread for breaking bad? if you haven't seen it by now, you probably won't ever see it.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:21 am to finchmeister08
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why is their a spoiler thread for breaking bad? if you haven't seen it by now, you probably won't ever see it.
hey, I just watched it for the first time. there are a few of us still out there
Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:22 am to sorantable
She was as unlikable as King Joffrey and ugly as homemade sin.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 9:09 am to sorantable
I started a similar thread abotu a year ago here: LINK
Although mine was geared more towards early seasons (first half of the show or thereabouts) I agree with your sentiment. Obviously she's not very likeable and is pretty annoying but I mean she's acting like just about any reasonable person would. I have zero tolerance for cheating so that's what kind put me over the edge wiht her, but early on in the show before she meets Ted she doesn't do anythign out of the ordinary to justify all the hate.
Although mine was geared more towards early seasons (first half of the show or thereabouts) I agree with your sentiment. Obviously she's not very likeable and is pretty annoying but I mean she's acting like just about any reasonable person would. I have zero tolerance for cheating so that's what kind put me over the edge wiht her, but early on in the show before she meets Ted she doesn't do anythign out of the ordinary to justify all the hate.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 9:11 am to sorantable
yes it was cerebral palsy. But I remember her going to the store and buying a pack of smokes then lighting it up and looking at her stomach, which in my opinion meant that she smoked with Walt Jr and that might have caused his condition. I was probably reading too much into the scene
Posted on 6/12/18 at 9:14 am to Spock's Eyebrow
quote:He didn't look 25 in those flashback scenes, and a couple of them were of him and her musing in classrooms. I'd have to pull it up, but they made it look like he was extremely gifted. No way a guy like that didn't have an advanced degree. Even the other chemist that Gus brings in says that Walt is amazing.
All we know about Walt is that he got a plaque for being on a team and left a company he co-founded before it got big.
But yeah, I suppose "crushed by life" is the easiest way to interpret it.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 9:28 am to Perrydawg
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I was probably reading too much into the scene
Impossible with this show
Posted on 6/12/18 at 9:32 am to Spock's Eyebrow
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All we know about Walt is that he got a plaque for being on a team and left a company he co-founded before it got big.
That's a gross over simplification
Posted on 6/12/18 at 11:14 am to Breesus
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That's a gross over simplification
So over-simplified it can't be elaborated upon. Posted on 6/12/18 at 11:20 am to blueboy
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He didn't look 25 in those flashback scenes, and a couple of them were of him and her musing in classrooms. I'd have to pull it up, but they made it look like he was extremely gifted. No way a guy like that didn't have an advanced degree.
The only one I remember is when he was trying to impress Gretchen with the elemental composition of the human body. I thought that scene was extremely trite, no more advanced than Walt demonstrating different flame colors to his apathetic high school students.
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Even the other chemist that Gus brings in says that Walt is amazing.
At cooking meth.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 11:35 am to sorantable
I always thought one of the points of the show was that none of the characters were really likable in the sense of being good people. They were all pretty flawed people. I didn't really hate any of them, but neither did I really like them in the sense of wanting to be friends with any of them had they been real people.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 11:49 am to Spock's Eyebrow
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All we know about Walt is that he got a plaque for being on a team and left a company he co-founded before it got big.
From the wiki:
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Walter studied at the California Institute of Technology (Caltech) with Elliott Schwartz, where he proved himself a brilliant chemist with a specialty in X-ray crystallography ("Gray Matter"). In 1985, Walt's groundbreaking research regarding photon radiography contributed to a project that was awarded the Nobel Prize in Chemistry, awarded jointly to Herbert A. Hauptman and Jerome Karle for outstanding achievements in the development of direct methods for the determination of crystal structures
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:01 pm to 1BamaRTR
These were my thoughts on why I hated Skylar immediately after watching the series for the first time:
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What are you trying to say by that? I'm by no means being basic with my thoughts about Skyler. I don't like her character at all. I don't like how she plays both sides of the fence all the time...one minute she's crafting some outrageous lie to protect the family, and the next she's trying to be moral...one minute she's wanting Walt to kill someone and the next minute she's hating him for actually killing someone else. One minute she's giving away Walt's money to her former lover, and the next she's mad at Walt for continuing to cook because he needs to replace the money that she gave away.
Sure, it was Walt's fault that she was involved in the first place, but he always tried to keep his family separate from his business, and she got herself more and more involved, even to the point of being greedy at times.
And let's not forget that Walt granted her what she wanted...she wanted out and he signed the divorce papers, and then she didn't file them. He gave her the chance to separate from him and keep her kids safer, and she chose not to.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:42 pm to 1BamaRTR
I'm not talking about the wiki. I'm talking about what was in the show. The plaque he got said he was "project leader." Big whoop. He was awarded a fricking plaque! He might have been replaced at some point for all we know, like Seth Neddermeyer during The Manhattan Project, and even if he wasn't, we have no idea just how important his work was. Did the show refer to "his groundbreaking research," or is that just wiki talk? If Walt had been treated like Rosalind Franklin, he would have seethed about it. Did the show even say what he did for "Gray Matter?" Given that he sold out for $5,000, the company wasn't worth shite at the time, nor did it have any real prospects on the horizon.
Look, I'm not saying Mr. White (Mr., not Dr.) was an idiot. I'm saying what I said, that his origin story is unknown, WRT explaining why he ended up a high school teacher and car wash attendant. For unknown reasons, he burned out very young, never capitalizing on his capabilities. The contacts he had made were insufficient to keep him in the scientific community, and they would've actively tried to assuming he had a half-decent relationship with them.
Look, I'm not saying Mr. White (Mr., not Dr.) was an idiot. I'm saying what I said, that his origin story is unknown, WRT explaining why he ended up a high school teacher and car wash attendant. For unknown reasons, he burned out very young, never capitalizing on his capabilities. The contacts he had made were insufficient to keep him in the scientific community, and they would've actively tried to assuming he had a half-decent relationship with them.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:58 pm to Spock's Eyebrow
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Did the show refer to "his groundbreaking research," or is that just wiki talk?
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I'm not talking about the wiki. I'm talking about what was in the show.
Things (not the groundbreaking part) were briefly mentioned or alluded to in the show. I think it’s safe to say he was a pretty good chemist at least.
It’s still odd that a guy with possibly a masters in chemistry from a prestigious school such as Cal tech would be better than a high school chemistry teacher. But Walt himself pointed out he was pretty much a loser and underachiever. He left the company because he felt inferior to Gretchen and her family.
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 6/12/18 at 2:16 pm to 1BamaRTR
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It’s still odd that a guy with possibly a masters in chemistry from a prestigious school such as Cal tech would be better than a high school chemistry teacher.
Thank you for saying "possibly a masters."
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But Walt himself pointed out he was pretty much a loser and underachiever. He left the company because he felt inferior to Gretchen and her family.
Even that bit about Gretchen was not part of the show. Apparently, the actress who played her said something to that effect in an interview, but Vince Gilligan said years later he doesn't "trust" Walt's recollections of Gretchen and Elliot.
LINK
When I imagine Walt's backstory, I see a guy who was better than most through undergrad and maybe a little grad school but ultimately had a low ceiling of potential achievement compared to the guys who gave him that cheap plaque and even guys who went on to become working chemists. He realized this at some point and checked out, and that's the real source of his life-long bitterness. So yeah, basically a loser and underachiever like you said. "Those who can't do, teach (and wash cars)."
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