re: How would you structure Star Wars IX?

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Kylo has to talk her back down.
Why would he talk her back down?

Could have sworn everyone was stating that he is now fully evil and the big bad.

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Well, in my scenario-

Kylo:
a) likes Rey as she is
b) already wavered once on killing Leia, so when she dies and sends him her goodbye death message, it effects him more.
c) he even complained in TFA that he has trouble staying Dark

That said, he's not the big bad if they are repelling an invasion, he's merely the Dark Side "expert", that can employ necessary Force attacks. He doesn't strike me as fully evil; he's got a ton of flaws, but I would expect that he would resist total galactic extinction, even if he just wanted to rule the survivors. He certainly seems to want SOME path, not just death for everyone involved; and if that's what they face, he becomes an ally out of necessity.

I'd see it going like this: Kylo and Rey are fighting a powerful foe (or a bunch of them), with Rey being the Light side focus, and Kylo being the Dark side weapon. It's working, but not enough to win. Kylo is both compromised by his inner Light side, and is simply not powerful enough.
Rey, being the pure Force vessel that she apparently is, makes the decision that SHE will channel the Dark Side as the weapon, and does this to great effect- basically goes Dark Phoenix on the enemy, defeats them all. But in doing so, she is "corrupted", and starts talking like Frodo on the ledge of Mt Doom and Palpatine whenever he cranks it up (unlimited power, I choose this as my own, etc), all yellow-eyed and menacing. Maybe she force-chokes Finn at this point.

Kylo then goes 'what havw I done' and talks her down, because he knows how to control the Dark side so it doesn't consume him, and he doesn't want her as a raging maniac. Maybe she fatally wounds him as he does, but he still brings her back to balance.

I'm not necessarily saying this is the best story to do, but I'm trying to project what they CAN do based on what they've hinted at. It seems clear that she is the more potent Force vessel, so she should be unleashed at some point.
It also seems clear that Kylo has a mastery over the Dark Side, or appears to be able to turn it on and off. His natural demeanor seems to be Light, and he's actively seeking the Dark... he wants the emo power. But then he slips up and does something 'good' again, unlike Darth Vader, who, once turned, only flipped back to good once, at the end.
So I guess that makes him a "gray" force user, who wouldn't necessarily be attracted to a fully Dark Rey.
Those two have some chemistry, and it definitely seems like they will reunite again at some point. If not for this, it's hard to guess what else it might be.

I will also say- if this is the path they choose, they sure did dick around way too much getting to that point, and the Unified Force part should have happened by early in the second movie. And there should have been hints dropped that there is something out there coming for them, even if it's only to the viewer and not to the characters. Luke should have known, or Yoda could have told Luke; "ironic is was that Palpatine kept them at bay, our greatest foe was also our greatest safety. And now that gone he is, all is exposed".

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I agreed. I'll straight up say it...it's a terrible movie. Again, I go back to that asinine opening scene with Poe pretending like he couldn't hear them or whatever the hell was going on. Star Wars has always had a bit of corny humor, but it never felt forced (no pun intended) or contrived or that over the top.

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Straight out of the MCU.

It wasn’t a Star Wars movie. It was a Marvel movie in space.

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Alternate plan, it starts out with Rey waking up in the midst of her Jedi training from a terrible dream that the resistance had been reduced to a handful of people aboard the millenium falcon.

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basically start IX right at the beginning of VIII negating everything that happened in VIII


It is fricking genius.

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why does everyone have to be connected to some older heritage? the force can randomly show itself in others. I also think it's a good counter point to Ben Solo being who he is.

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Because it breaks a major continuity between the first 7 films. This particular Star Wars saga is supposed to be about the influence of Skywalkers on the galaxy. If Luke is dead and Rey has no familial link to anyone from the Skywalker past then these final 3 movies fail to fit in the sequence. And don't bring up Kylo. An emo deuteragonist doesn't satisfy the continuity either.

Prequel 3:
Creation of Vader and birth of Luke & Leia

Original 3:
Vader's redemption and the triumph of Luke & Leia

Sequal 3: What they should be
Skywalkers pass on their legacy to a new generation (family/protege) that will continue to fight oppression in the galaxy

Sequal 3: What they are
A completely disconnected narrative that disowns its very source material. Luke is dead before the end. Leia has no story. Rey is a nobody. And Kylo, other than a compelling vehicle to kill off Han, doesn't have to be a Solo. His story could be that of any force sensitive person as evidenced by Rey's mundane history.

I’ll begin with standard title sequence and John Williams’ fanfare, followed by a scroll to be written. I would like to mention that Brian De Palma wrote the original opening scroll for Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope. I think it would be nice nod to the franchise if he were to write this opening scroll, then, pan down from the twin suns of Tatooine.

We are now close on the mouth of the Sarlacc Pit. After a beat, the gloved Mandalorian armour gauntlet of Boba Fett grabs onto the sand outside the Sarlacc pit, and the feared bounty hunter pulls himself from the maw of the sand beast.

And we realize that he survived his fall during the battle at Jabba’s palace ship.

Then, do a hard cut to a re-purposed imperial destroyer, which has now been taken over by the Rebels, Commander Luke Skywalker, now a full Jedi Knight, training new Padawans, is using – ironically – his father Anakin’s red lightsaber which will be a symbolic, I think, visual for his battle with how to both bring about the new Jedi Order, while still acknowledging his father’s fall from grace.As he is training the Padawans, we pan outside of the control window to a nearby asteroid where we see – and please allow me to finish this because it’s gonna seem like a bit of a jump – we see Thanos.

Who was the villain tease at the end of the first Avengers movie. Now Thanos, as you know, owns the Infinity Gauntlet which has the Time Gem, the Mind Gem, the Power Gem, the Space Gem and the Reality Gem. If he holds the Reality Gem, that means he can jump from different realities. This will be our link from – to the Marvel Universe from the Star Wars Universe. We then cut to Earth, Tony Stark realizes
Tony Stark realizes I – I do not recognize the Chair – Tony Stark realizes that there has been a disturbance in – in what he will call a time ribbon. For the time being, I will allow J.J. Abrams to think of a better term for this. And he then starts to assemble the cream of the Marvel universe, not – not the second-tier super heroes that we saw in the first Avengers movie, I’m sorry but Hawkeye and Black Widow are not first-tier. He would go find, hello, Spider-Man? Spider-Man exists in that universe.

He would go find Moon Knight; he would go find Daredevil; he would go find Hercules, and then that can bring in the entire pantheon of Greek gods that we saw in Clash and Wrath of the Titans.

So now we have a giant three-franchise tie-in. Now, cut back to the Imperial Star Destroyer, Luke gets a visit from – and we only show this from the boots up first, so we show these like black boots with the – and then we pan up in, oh, my god it’s Han Solo but he’s old, older and grizzled and really, like, focused and cool like he’s seen some really bad stuff, and he actually seems shaken.

And Luke is like, what’s wrong, old buddy? And that’s when Han drops Chewbacca’s severed head onto the floor. Yes, in front of the all the Padawans...

Hmmm, I can only imagine if they did this:

Opening scene has the Resistance on the Falcon, swirling around trying to evade the First Order. You have brief, almost subliminal flashes of all the characters from TFA and TLJ, as they are being pursued.

We see the famous cockpit scene, as Threepio says "OH NO!", and Chewie swats a space chicken off the dash and howls... the Falcon explodes under heavy blasterfire...

Cut to Luke's face, covered in sweat- his eyes snap open:
GAAAA!!!

Camera pans to Han Solo, laughing, with Chewie standing behind him:
Told you, kid, no matter how big a Jedi you are, you can't mess with the spice Jabba and I used to run!
And sure, I get that you were just trying to commune with the Force, but your sister isn't so understanding.

Now you better go talk to Leia, and explain that her son isn't going to kill us all, okay? And- hey- maybe reconsider the beard, just between us?

They could then scroll the end credits, and I'd be happy

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Sgt_Lincoln_Osiris

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I want some of whatever you're on.

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I'm not sure that the fleet we saw in TLJ is the full might of the First Order.

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If it’s not, then why would some of Snoke’s generals across the Galaxy submit to the likes of Kylo Ren? His fleet is devastated, and I’d have a hard time believing that someone like say Thrawn would submit to an emo manchild.

All any general that used to work for Snoke would do is not take Kylo Ren’s phone calls and then use that new Hyperdrive missile they finally invented against his remaining fleet. There’s almost no way the First Order (or the Resistance for that matter) would survive the events of TLJ.

Keep in mind, they also just lost Starkiller Base a few days before. It’d be like if North Korea nuked New York and then lose their army and nuclear arsenal within the week. The world isn’t going to sit around, they’ll hunt them down. This movie was just as poorly thought out as Man of Steel and doesn’t remotely consider anything that isn't directly on the screen.

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If the President and VP were to die when the US was in conflict, do you have any question that the US generals and government would "submit" to the House Speaker? That's the established line of succession.

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This is an evil empire though, filled with evil people. In a militaristic empire, the generals tend to get greedy and fight among themselves. A leader must really, really have his ducks in a row in order to prevent total collapse over a quickly expanding empire. I don't buy that at least some of the generals wouldn't try to take control.

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In this case, we're probably talking similar to North Korea, and Snoke is Kim Jong Un. If he were to die, and there was someone already established as next in line, he likely takes over, at least until the conflict is over. Kylo seems to have been trusted to operate above/beyond the military; and he does wield a significant amount of power and fear.

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Here's the problem: The First Order isn't exactly an Empire, but just a pathetic remnant of the former Empire. They got one punch in, and seemingly everything has gone to hell for them in a week. After all they've done in a week, they'd be hunted down like rats. If there are other forces that weren't shown, the generals' best bet is to use their forces to hide out and take over some planet and say they had nothing to do with Starkiller Base. I just don't see how the First Order could survive the events of the last two films.

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That fleet was under the command of Snoke himself, not Kylo. The military failure would be attached to the failure of Snoke, and he died. Kylo would have salvaged what is left.
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Keep in mind, they also just lost Starkiller Base a few days before. It’d be like if North Korea nuked New York and then lose their army and nuclear arsenal within the week.
Again, that's ultimately on Snoke, and on Hux and the military (Starkiller was his, not Kylo's).

If this was real, then there might be an upcoming coup attempt. But it's worth noting that the military followed Kylo's commands after Snoke died; so it's not like he was completely powerless. He didn't have to kill Hux to assume control.

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Because Kylo is right by them and will chop them in half if they refuse. He can also read minds. Why should a general halfway across the galaxy care when as you said it was Snoke fricking up? Just bombard him from a distance since his personal forces are basically depleted. I just don't buy that they would follow Kylo Ren when he has no leverage and the remaining Republic is probably on the verge of destroying them anyway.

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Rey discovers her parantage and they aren't meaningless bums.

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I suspect this will happen. The original movie was very vague about the fate of Luke’s father.