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How has the Buster Douglas movie never been made
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:50 pm
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:50 pm
Espn aired the Douglas 30 for 30 tonight.
I always knew the story of his mother dying before the Tyson match and his weight issues, but I didn't know his father was a skilled fighter and he basically fired him as his trainer.
You throw in the Tyson invincibility factor and the odds and the emotions and the damn thing is ripe with Oscar Bait if done properly.
I think the truly hard part would be casting Douglas. He had a very unique look. He was lean, yet kind of bulky, very big and athletic. Plus you gotta have dude who can also act his arse off for the emotions of the part. I can't think of a single known actor in that age range who could do it.
I always knew the story of his mother dying before the Tyson match and his weight issues, but I didn't know his father was a skilled fighter and he basically fired him as his trainer.
You throw in the Tyson invincibility factor and the odds and the emotions and the damn thing is ripe with Oscar Bait if done properly.
I think the truly hard part would be casting Douglas. He had a very unique look. He was lean, yet kind of bulky, very big and athletic. Plus you gotta have dude who can also act his arse off for the emotions of the part. I can't think of a single known actor in that age range who could do it.
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:27 pm to Jack Ruby
Bc the Tyson story makes for a better movie. Do you know his rise and fall??
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:57 pm to Jack Ruby
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How has the Buster Douglas movie never been made
quote:I guess it was made then.
Espn aired the Douglas 30 for 30 tonight.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:59 pm to Jack Ruby
I believe it would have if he had retained the title for a few years and Tyson went back to dominance.
But neither happened.
But he gave it up the next fight, was accused of quitting and then quit boxing getting really fat.
SI called him The Real Rocky on their cover but he wasn't out of nowhere.
He was a longtime prospect supposed to do great things but his trainer father even quit on him saying he had no work ethic.
This one fight Buster lived up to his promise and put everything together while Tyson was being controlled by a fraud and managed by idiots.
But neither happened.
But he gave it up the next fight, was accused of quitting and then quit boxing getting really fat.
SI called him The Real Rocky on their cover but he wasn't out of nowhere.
He was a longtime prospect supposed to do great things but his trainer father even quit on him saying he had no work ethic.
This one fight Buster lived up to his promise and put everything together while Tyson was being controlled by a fraud and managed by idiots.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:00 pm to kciDAtaE
The problem with a Tyson film is that it's actually 3 or 4 films worth of material, and if you tried to make it in one, you fall deeply into the trappings of a formulaic biopic.
Plus, Tyson with his voice and how famous he is and was, does not make for good serious imitations. It always looks like a caricature, instead of a character. Plus he was pretty psychotic and violent in the early 90s....after the Douglas defeat, and does not have many redesming qualities until after he retires.
Douglas is a singular story, concentrated and centered around all that he had been through and never living up to his potential, and finally culminating in the fight of his life.
It's a real Rocky story... Except he fricking wins and wins decisively, all while being the biggest odds on underdog champ maybe ever.
Plus, Tyson with his voice and how famous he is and was, does not make for good serious imitations. It always looks like a caricature, instead of a character. Plus he was pretty psychotic and violent in the early 90s....after the Douglas defeat, and does not have many redesming qualities until after he retires.
Douglas is a singular story, concentrated and centered around all that he had been through and never living up to his potential, and finally culminating in the fight of his life.
It's a real Rocky story... Except he fricking wins and wins decisively, all while being the biggest odds on underdog champ maybe ever.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:14 pm to Jack Ruby
I will say this...I tried to get the fight on Armed Forces radio...because outside of PPV, I heard that they often broadcasted for free for the troops. I wasn't in the Armed Forces obviously - still in school - but just wanted to hear the fight.
I woke up to my radio alarm set to sports radio...and heard the news.
I thought it was April Fool's or some disc jockey making a joke. It was surreal. That's how big Tyson was. You felt he could never be beat.
I agree that's it's one of the greatest sports stories ever and if it were ever made into a movie, I'd definitely watch it.
Douglas demasked Tyson...for the bully he was and had the determination not to lose the fight before it was fought.
After Douglas, nobody was afraid of Tyson anymore. (Prison helped.)
I woke up to my radio alarm set to sports radio...and heard the news.
I thought it was April Fool's or some disc jockey making a joke. It was surreal. That's how big Tyson was. You felt he could never be beat.
I agree that's it's one of the greatest sports stories ever and if it were ever made into a movie, I'd definitely watch it.
Douglas demasked Tyson...for the bully he was and had the determination not to lose the fight before it was fought.
After Douglas, nobody was afraid of Tyson anymore. (Prison helped.)
Posted on 12/12/18 at 7:56 am to Jack Ruby
There was a script, but Buster ate it
Posted on 12/12/18 at 8:46 am to Jack Ruby
nothing triumphant about a fixed fight
Posted on 12/12/18 at 8:48 am to blueboy
no doubt there are producers pouncing on this today
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:00 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
i watched that fight on PPV.
man Tyson fights were actual events back then. we’d have huge watch parties for all of them (and we ain’t even boxing fans).
somewhere around round 3-4 somebody there (think it was a friend of my dad) said “this sonofabitch is gonna beat Tyson tonight”
pretty much could see his confidence grow as the fight grew longer and longer and he (and Tyson) realized that Mike wasn’t just gonna bulldoze him.
it turned into a real boxing match basically eliminating Tyson’s advantage.
man Tyson fights were actual events back then. we’d have huge watch parties for all of them (and we ain’t even boxing fans).
somewhere around round 3-4 somebody there (think it was a friend of my dad) said “this sonofabitch is gonna beat Tyson tonight”
pretty much could see his confidence grow as the fight grew longer and longer and he (and Tyson) realized that Mike wasn’t just gonna bulldoze him.
it turned into a real boxing match basically eliminating Tyson’s advantage.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:13 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
I was mad when Tyson lost. He was a childhood hero for me at the time and I thought he would never lose the title.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:33 am to kciDAtaE
I sincerely believe that Tyson did not rape that woman.
One day I hope to advance past Soda Popinski and face him myself.
One day I hope to advance past Soda Popinski and face him myself.
This post was edited on 12/12/18 at 9:36 am
Posted on 12/12/18 at 10:47 am to Napoleon
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One day I hope to advance past Soda Popinski and face him myself.
The secret is to hit him with the star punch after he does an uppercut. But facing Mr. Sandman and Super Macho Man is another ball of wax.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 10:51 am to Nutriaitch
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i watched that fight on PPV.
Are you sure it wasn't on HBO?
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:01 am to Jack Ruby
Not surprising, he's obviously got some brain damage.
After the 30 for 30, they interviewed him on Sportscenter and they asked him what did he think of the movie. Then they asked him what was it like for him at the time with winning the fight and the family matters he had going on at the time, and he gave pretty much the exact same answer that he did to the 1st question. Felt bad for the dude.
I was glad they showed the whole fight after the documentary. He put Tyson to school that night. Tyson was flat footed the whole night looking only for the knockout, and Douglas was light on his feet and just out boxed him. And the punches that put Tyson on the mat were just unbelievably perfect. Tyson didnt know what was going on for a while after it was over.
After the 30 for 30, they interviewed him on Sportscenter and they asked him what did he think of the movie. Then they asked him what was it like for him at the time with winning the fight and the family matters he had going on at the time, and he gave pretty much the exact same answer that he did to the 1st question. Felt bad for the dude.
I was glad they showed the whole fight after the documentary. He put Tyson to school that night. Tyson was flat footed the whole night looking only for the knockout, and Douglas was light on his feet and just out boxed him. And the punches that put Tyson on the mat were just unbelievably perfect. Tyson didnt know what was going on for a while after it was over.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:36 am to Jack Ruby
Idris Elba
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:45 am to Jack Ruby
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It's a real Rocky story... Except he fricking wins and wins decisively, all while being the biggest odds on underdog champ maybe ever.
I'm not sure it's Rocky. Rocky overachieved. Buster underachieved vs his talent for all but that one fight.
He was a really physically talented fighter, but his work ethic and mental game weren't there. He put them together for his big shot at Tyson, pulled the shocker, then abruptly reverted to a lack of work ethic and came in fat and got worked.
It's a fascinating story, but not Rocky. It's more like that Costner movie, The Love of the Game. Struggling journeyman puts it all together for a shot at glory, then basically walks away. I know Douglas fought again, but he checked out after Tokyo.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:51 pm to Ace Midnight
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Are you sure it wasn't on HBO?
not sure one way or another.
I was only 11 or 12 at the time.
it may have even been Showtime. they carried a lot of fights back then.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 1:08 pm to Jack Ruby
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He had a very unique look. He was lean, yet kind of bulky, very big and athletic. Plus you gotta have dude who can also act his arse off for the emotions of the part
Hugh Jackman or one of the Hemsworths
Posted on 12/12/18 at 1:17 pm to Nutriaitch
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it may have even been Showtime. they carried a lot of fights back then.
It was on HBO. I watched the fight and I was not a PPV guy. I was a HBO subscriber at that point.
I can clearly recall the Tyson-Holyfield II (Bite fight) because that was PPV and my father and I went to a friend of his to watch it.
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