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How far ahead of it's time was Star Wars?
Posted on 3/7/11 at 10:33 am
Posted on 3/7/11 at 10:33 am
I'm not a fanboy, I've seen them maybe two or three times and I like them, but watching/finishing Firefly/Serenity the other day got me thinking (other than it seemed like Malcom Reynolds character was based strongly off of Hans Solo)...
Firefly, a series that basically anybody who watches it, loves it, was made in 2002. Serenity in 2005. But while watching it I couldnt help but think that the special effects in Star Wars, made in 1977, were as good if not better in some parts.
Almost 30 years later and shows/movies are just barely matching what Star Wars did, and it's still considered good tv.
Firefly, a series that basically anybody who watches it, loves it, was made in 2002. Serenity in 2005. But while watching it I couldnt help but think that the special effects in Star Wars, made in 1977, were as good if not better in some parts.
Almost 30 years later and shows/movies are just barely matching what Star Wars did, and it's still considered good tv.
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Posted on 3/7/11 at 10:40 am to iwyLSUiwy
I don't think it was ahead of its time. It came out at the right time as Hollywood in the 70s was starting to put more emphasis on basic, straightforward storytelling. Star Wars was a poster child for that along with Jaws and Rocky.
Star Wars works because its just good imaginative storytelling. Nothing more and nothing less.
Star Wars works because its just good imaginative storytelling. Nothing more and nothing less.
Posted on 3/7/11 at 10:41 am to iwyLSUiwy
The special effects in Star Wars are nearly flawless. I like seeing the creatures in costumes better than CGI.
The only thing that really dates Star Wars are the hair styles and the "technology" sets. Like the control room in the Death Star and the breifing room on Yavin 4.
The only thing that really dates Star Wars are the hair styles and the "technology" sets. Like the control room in the Death Star and the breifing room on Yavin 4.
Posted on 3/7/11 at 10:41 am to iwyLSUiwy
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How far ahead of it's time was Star Wars?
How long was the Kessel run?
Posted on 3/7/11 at 10:43 am to Superior Pariah
quote:If only more films followed its lead. As we've become more and more dependent on special effects in blockbusters, directors have forgotten how to tell an engaging story.
Star Wars works because its just good imaginative storytelling. Nothing more and nothing less.
Posted on 3/7/11 at 10:44 am to Superior Pariah
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Star Wars works because its just good imaginative storytelling. Nothing more and nothing less.
Not true at all. Star Wars was light years ahead of anything in special effects. Nothing was close at the time. That appeal was just as if not more important than the story to a lot of people back then.
Posted on 3/7/11 at 10:48 am to Superior Pariah
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Star Wars works because its just good imaginative storytelling. Nothing more and nothing less.
I dont really see that being a knock against it. But to say the special effects weren't way ahead of it's time is a huge discredit to the film.
Posted on 3/7/11 at 11:00 am to iwyLSUiwy
But a big reason why Star Wars is just as much fun today is because the story is so good. Special effects only carry a movie so far. Do you think people will remember Avatar 30 years from now just because of its revolutionary special effects? I doubt it.
Posted on 3/7/11 at 11:00 am to iwyLSUiwy
Light-years
Posted on 3/7/11 at 11:04 am to Superior Pariah
I misunderstood your response then. I thought why it was so popular back then.
And merchandising & toys carries the rest.
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Special effects only carry a movie so far
And merchandising & toys carries the rest.
This post was edited on 3/7/11 at 11:05 am
Posted on 3/7/11 at 11:05 am to Nativebullet
a few parsecs at least...
Posted on 3/7/11 at 11:11 am to iwyLSUiwy
The problem with most science fiction movies and shows today is being overly reliant on the special effects at the expense of the story.
Star Wars (while not truly SF) had a good story and great special effects.
Sadly, it's rare that we get both in the same show or movie these days.
Star Wars (while not truly SF) had a good story and great special effects.
Sadly, it's rare that we get both in the same show or movie these days.
Posted on 3/7/11 at 11:20 am to iwyLSUiwy
isn't space supposed to be silent
Posted on 3/7/11 at 11:37 am to Cdawg
It was the light sabers that did it braseph. That and a 7 ft tall dog and an iconic badass villain.
Posted on 3/7/11 at 11:43 am to Superior Pariah
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Do you think people will remember Avatar 30 years from now just because of its revolutionary special effects? I doubt it.
Did it have revolutionary special effects? Was it that much greater than anything that had come out before it? I doubt it.
Posted on 3/7/11 at 11:50 am to iwyLSUiwy
The best part of Star Wars' effects is the non-CGI stuff.
The CGI they inserted into it looks really awful.
There's no "grit" to it. It's just not-genuine looking.
That's the big problem I have with modern CGI. It's too frenetic and impossible-looking.
I wish more people would still make movies like the original Star Wars, with real locations, modelwork, makeup and real stunts.
The CGI they inserted into it looks really awful.
There's no "grit" to it. It's just not-genuine looking.
That's the big problem I have with modern CGI. It's too frenetic and impossible-looking.
I wish more people would still make movies like the original Star Wars, with real locations, modelwork, makeup and real stunts.
Posted on 3/7/11 at 11:53 am to iwyLSUiwy
quote:it happened a long time ago, not in the future
How far ahead of it's time was Star Wars?
read the title crawl
psh
This post was edited on 3/7/11 at 11:54 am
Posted on 3/7/11 at 12:36 pm to iwyLSUiwy
It was a really big deal because of the effects.
Not the most impressive acting though.
Not the most impressive acting though.
Posted on 3/7/11 at 12:41 pm to the smoke monster
quote:Yes. Plus laws of aerodynamics wouldn't apply.
isn't space supposed to be silent
Posted on 3/7/11 at 12:43 pm to Tigah in the ATL
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Not the most impressive acting though
No. Not at all.
Im sure ive seen something else with Mark Hamill in it, I just cant think of it right now. But he drove me nuts, dear god he was a terrible actor.
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