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re: How can anyone not like the LOTR trilogy?
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:33 pm to Big Scrub TX
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:33 pm to Big Scrub TX
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However...I DO think things like Game of Thrones have blasted them a little bit into the stone age. The characters are all basically 2 dimensional simply because everything is pure, black and white, good vs evil.
I tried to make this point a couple weeks back and was downvoted to hell.
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Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:40 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Downvote all that you want but just because I thought a movie could've been edited tighter doesn't mean that I have no attention span.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:45 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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Downvote all that you want but just because I thought a movie could've been edited tighter doesn't mean that I have no attention span.
It was edited so tightly that I think the theatrical version of the Two Towers really deleted an essential scene to understanding Faramir. In the movie Faramir just seems like a dick, but not in the Extended Edition: Osgiliath flashback
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:50 pm to RantardoMontalbon
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Utterly ruined when you realize that all Gandalf had to do was summon one of those big arse eagles, strap a hobbit on it with the ring, and have it fly to Mordor. For a wizard Gandalf was pretty fricking dumb.
No, the Nazgul and Sauron would have struck the Eagles down. It’s a retarded plan that would just get everyone killed. It had to be done in absolute secrecy and stealth, because they were no long term match for Sauron.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:53 pm to Aubie Spr96
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It should have been. That's my problem with it.
Find a fan edit. I’ve found a really good one that’s as long as Return of the King, and it’s great. The scenes Jackson needed to nail he knocked it out of the park. The studios are firmly to blame for the disaster the rest of the film was outside of those scenes he needed to nail. The cast and crew gave it their all, so I don’t blame them.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:58 pm to Aubie Spr96
The first movie was OK, 2nd wasn't the worst I suppose but 3rd is horrendous. Too much uncanny valley CGI...or something. Letdown when compared to LotR
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:58 pm to RantardoMontalbon
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Action that strains suspension of disbelief (dwarves, barrels, and river).
Isn’t that The Hobbit though, and not LotR?
Posted on 9/14/21 at 5:34 pm to bad93ex
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I tried to make this point a couple weeks back and was downvoted to hell.
Have another.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 5:39 pm to OMLandshark
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No, the Nazgul and Sauron would have struck the Eagles down. It’s a retarded plan that would just get everyone killed. It had to be done in absolute secrecy and stealth, because they were no long term match for Sauron.
Easily the worst opinion anyone can have about LOTR is "the eagles should have just flown them to Mt. Doom." As you said if they tried that Sauron, who was far from powerless, would have seen it coming, destroyed the eagles, and taken back the ring. In his hubris he never thought anyone would try to destroy the ring because he believed they would attempt to claim it and take the power for themselves. It's why he brought out the entirety of his power to the Black Gate after Aragorn showed himself in the palantir. It's the only way he thought his siege of Gondor could have been defeated.
On a different topic though the movies destroyed the characters of Faramir and Denethor and even though it's my favorite trilogy the way Peter Jackson treated those two is a travesty.
This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 6:44 pm
Posted on 9/14/21 at 5:49 pm to MFn GIMP
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On a different topic though the movies destroyed the characters of Faramir and Denethor and even though it's my favorite trilogy the say Peter Jackson treated those two is a travesty.
I always laugh at Denethors’s flaming 1 mile sprint.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 5:57 pm to LB84
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I've heard a decent amount of guys say that it's 9 hours of walking.
And 9 hours isn’t long enough IMO. Even with the extended editions, tons and tons of stuff from the books were left out. Each movie should’ve been 15 hours long.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 6:50 pm to PillageUrVillage
Froto is a bitch
Posted on 9/14/21 at 6:51 pm to PillageUrVillage
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And 9 hours isn’t long enough IMO. Even with the extended editions, tons and tons of stuff from the books were left out. Each movie should’ve been 15 hours long.
I mean, not that long. Of things they removed from the Extended Edition my only major problem is the Scouring of the Shire and Galadriel should have given Sam the Mallorn tree nut. Add another hour to hour and a half, and in the Extended Edition of Return of the King, end the second disk at “You bow to no one” and the third disk be the Scouring of the Shire and beyond.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 6:53 pm to jbraua
quote:bc it was boring. there was always talk of stuff going to happen but nothing much ever happens.
Why? How? Please explain.
Please explain what is good about it. seriously. maybe I missed the good stuff.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 7:05 pm to bad93ex
quote:Me too. Another thing is the nearly completely de-sexualized nature of the LOTR universe. Sam is bsaically the only one shown lusting for someone (the barmaid that he is revealed to ultimately marry.) Even Arwen and Strider's relationship is highly de-sexualized.
I tried to make this point a couple weeks back and was downvoted to hell.
I would argue that that dehumanizes the characters and reduces complexity(yes, I know hobbits are not men.)
Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:36 pm to jbraua
I remember people in the theatre being vocally pissed at the end of the first movie, like had they never opened a book? I honestly never watched the other two in full but I might one day, I don't rule it out.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:24 pm to OMLandshark
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No, the Nazgul and Sauron would have struck the Eagles down. It’s a retarded plan that would just get everyone killed. It had to be done in absolute secrecy and stealth, because they were no long term match for Sauron.
Not if Gandalf also puts Harry Potter and one of those tall blue indigenous jungle warriors on the same eagle.
When the Nazgul come, Harry casts 'expeloramus' to hold them at bay, and blue guy shoots and arrow into Sauron's eye as they fly past to the volcano.
Which is when the Hobbit throws the ring down to Optimus Prime who dunks it into the lava juice before he makes sweet sweet love to Vin Diesel.
See? Simple stuff.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:30 pm to RantardoMontalbon
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Not if Gandalf also puts Harry Potter and one of those tall blue indigenous jungle warriors on the same eagle.
The fact you even bring Harry Potter bullshite into this conversation means you’re a retard.
This post was edited on 9/15/21 at 8:45 am
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:35 pm to OMLandshark
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I mean, not that long.
Yeah I was exaggerating a bit.
The point being that even with as long as the movies are, the story is still very condensed compared to the source.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:42 pm to jbraua
Good timing on this thread. We just started a rewatch of LOTR. Two Towers is still my record for times seen in a theater. Think I did 4 times.
I had the first movie on VHS.
I had the first movie on VHS.
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