re: House of the Dragon: S2 Episode 8 “The Queen Who Ever Was.” (SPOILERS)

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. But if we are only getting 1 ASOIAF show a year, these 7 additional shows in development sound much less appealing.

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Why is that? I feel like getting a show a year is better than waiting 2 years.

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I feel like getting a show a year is better than waiting 2 years

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I don't see how anyone could argue otherwise.

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So... with the old tree vision does Daemon become the Night king?

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No, the Night King is really old and was around for the first Long Night so I don't think its possible that Daemon is the Night King.

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Really disappointed in the Wild Dragon.

It was supposed to be huge, but it didn't look any bigger than Syrax.

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No Sheep stealer is about the same age as Syrax if I remember correctly. Grey Ghost is even smaller. The Cannibal is the one that is HUGE.

Edit: Sheepstealer is actually over 50 years old so I was mistaken. IDK, I didn't find the size of the dragon all that big of an issue.

Couldn't watch Sunday so just watched last night. I don't know what the general opinion was for the the board because I haven't read the thread yet, but for me, that was an absolute dud of a finale. What a bummer.

I guess the showrunners felt that episode 4/dragon fight was enough excitement to hold them over for an entire season but it wasn't. They are moving at too slow of a pace and not giving the audience enough to enjoy while they build up to bigger events. As a whole, it felt like very little happened and they almost made you not want to root for anyone now because they all are so boring.

It's not that it is bad television and I certainly don't need a bunch of action, but HotD is not supposed to be The West Wing level of dialogue.

After the credits the show runners talked about how big of a pleasure it was to work with the actress that played Sharako Lohar and how refreshing her character was. During the episode I was seriously thinking about how she might be the worst character in the history of the GoT/HotD universe. My god what an awful character. They realized that after two full seasons they needed some comic relief and that's what they give you 100% the show needed more comic relief but she was just annoying, not funny. Ulf could have been used more for that. He could be a legit good character.

I'm ranting, but just because I'm disappointed. So much could have happened but they are just milking it and if you want to do that, whatever, but it's hurting the story.

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I knew that would be the case ending on a cliffhanger. I've seen a bunch of dumb criticisms of the finale. It's pretty obvious people are mad about cliffhanger and looking for stuff to bitch about. The episode was really good. We got the Daemon we've been waiting for all season, focused/driven.

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You can't be serious. I get liking the episode, it's not bad television, but to act like fans not liking it are just bitching to bitch is ridiculous. Yes, we got the Daemon we've been waiting for and it to 7 3/4 episodes to get him and what did the Daemon we all want do? Nothing. Because they drug it out and now you're just waiting even longer. They wasted an entire season for arguably the best character on the show. I find it hard to wrap my brain around the fact that someone could actually be excited over what happened with Daemons character. "Yah! Daemon will be cool again... next season!" Knowing that Daemon might be the Daemon of old next season doesn't redeem what he had been for the entirety of season 2 much less make me think I got what I wanted.

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So... with the old tree vision does Daemon become the Night king?

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Daemon was just an observer of the events to show why he needed to support Rhaenyra.

The Targ in the vision with the birthmark was Bloodraven, a Targ bastard that hasn’t been born yet. He eventually becomes the Three Eyed Raven that Bran meets (D&D didn’t care about Bloodraven) after events that will be featured in Dunk and Egg (A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms).

The dragons were symbolizing the death of the dragons.

That wasn’t the Night King, just one of his lieutenants like the one Jon killed at Hardhome or the one that took the babies from Craster. It was just to foreshadow their threat.

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what did the Daemon we all want do? Nothing.

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We still have 2 seasons to go

You can't say the character did nothing, his story isn't over. That's like saying reviving Jon at the end of an episode didn't matter because he didn't do anything.

Im enjoying the fleshing out of the characters, we already know how the war ends.

I also didn't mind the rest of the season's scenes in Harrenhal. The witch of Harrenhal was a character from the books I've always wanted to learn more of.

I'm in no rush for the show to end. I wish they were gonna do more than 4 seasons.

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That whole sequence was cringe. It wasn't acted well and they made the pirates seem like a bunch of goofy idiots. The reason why Bron and Tyrion worked is because their humor fit within their character.

Lohar is supposed to be the baddest person in a room of bad people. The leader of pirates and they make her out to be a silly jokester from the jump. The show runners just aren't understanding the character depth that made GoT so good and think they can just drop similar things into HotD and it just doesn't work.

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It was so bad. Incredibly dumb/goofy character that like you say, cannot act. I had forgotten about that character and when they introduced her I was like ahh, sweet. Then immediately disappointed. Which at this point is kind of the expected reaction to new characters. She is such a bad arse mud wrestler. It's funny right? That she mud wrestles?

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I am really sad they didn't cast Mushroom. Thats an easy character to get some humor out of that doesn't ruin his character or the overall story.

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Same.

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you can't say the character did nothing, his story isn't over.

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We are talking about how season 2 wasn't very good. You can definitely say they wasted his character for an entire season and he did nothing. The fact that he has a big role to play in the future doesn't make what they did with him in season 2 any better.

We now know the issue was the writers strike combined with the budget. I commend the show runners for realizing they needed more money to do the Gullet justice but that doesn't make what they did in season 2 good.

I realize that you think the show was good anyway (and thats a fair opinion for you to have) but you have to realize that you are in the severe minority with that opinion and that there are real reasons to criticize this season and its not just because "everyone wants to bitch." I defended this season until I could no longer act like there weren't issues. Whether it was budgets or writing, this season was a lot of filler to stretch it out so that they could wait until next season to do the Gullet. It is what it is and hopefully it all pays off over the next 2 seasons. There is just too much action in this story for it to not make good TV so long as they stick to the book on the major plot points.