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re: House of the Dragon: S2 Episode 7 "The Red Sowing" (SPOILERS)
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:44 am to Napoleon
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:44 am to Napoleon
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This show the top cast could all die and I don't think many would care
What I said in a previous thread...
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I could take it a step farther and say that they have made a show where you don't really care what happens to the majority of the characters. Almost two seasons in now and ANY of the characters on HoTd could die and nobody would care half as much as we did after one season of Ned Stark, and Ned wasn't even the most liked character.
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Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:45 am to Mickey Goldmill
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"She used to tell me I was no different to her brother’s boys, Viserys and Daemon,
His mom was siblings with Baelon the Brave.
If that is the quote then I am mistaken and his mother Saera. What a tragic life she had.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:46 am to Mickey Goldmill
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House of the Dragon actor, Kieran Brew who plays Hugh the Hammer admitted there is nobody else his mother could be other than Saera Targaryen. If that’s not enough confirmation, I don’t know what is
This comfirms it
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:46 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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Hugh said his mom was siblings with Daemon and Viserys s
That's not what he said. He said that his mom used to tell him that he was no different than her brother's boys Viserys and Daemon.
Saera was a whore and was Baelon's sister. They all but said that she was Saera Targaryen.
This post was edited on 7/29/24 at 9:49 am
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:49 am to Draco Malfoy
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House of the Dragon actor, Kieran Brew who plays Hugh the Hammer admitted there is nobody else his mother could be other than Saera Targaryen. If that’s not enough confirmation, I don’t know what is
I agree that I was mistaken but the show runners have gotten little details wrong before so it would not have surprised me if they confirmed something that contradicted the source material.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 10:06 am to Bert Macklin FBI
quote:Saera is Baelon's sister. Hugh said he reminded her of his mother's brother's sons.
Again, It can't be confirmed. Saera was Jahaerys's daughter and Viserys and Daemon were Baelon's kids. If she was siblings to Viserys and Daemon, she cannot be Saera.
Watch the video I posted
ETA: But Hugh's words are puzzling, because I don't think Saera ever knew her brother's sons.
This post was edited on 7/29/24 at 10:49 am
Posted on 7/29/24 at 10:22 am to blueboy
You would think the Gullet would be the real wake up call as it foretells how this will end: Everyone killed off, fortunes lost, and dragons a thing of the past. A true look at the door of hell, should be enough to frighten them into peace. But no. Just like Verdun......
Posted on 7/29/24 at 11:03 am to prplhze2000
Was I the only one that thought the video quality was awful? I kept thinking something was wrong with my TV. Saw one guy say something about it on reddit.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 11:04 am to BulldogXero
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Was I the only one that thought the video quality was awful? I kept thinking something was wrong with my TV. Saw one guy say something about it on reddit.
I didn't notice anything was off
Posted on 7/29/24 at 11:43 am to iwyLSUiwy
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I could take it a step farther and say that they have made a show where you don't really care what happens to the majority of the characters. Almost two seasons in now and ANY of the characters on HoTd could die and nobody would care half as much as we did after one season of Ned Stark, and Ned wasn't even the most liked character.
I was late to the GoT party, so I already knew a bunch of characters would die. The Red Wedding would have been a dagger if it hadn't been spoiled.
Even though I've watched HotD since the premiere, I still went into it thinking EVERYONE is gonna die in this show. They have their reasonings, they have their ambitions, and they have their flaws. But they're all gonna die for their commitments. It's for that reason that I haven't really picked a side, because both families lose everything in the end.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 11:52 am to JumpingTheShark
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neither of which is consistent with the source material
They have surely strayed, yes. And not in a particularly good way, nor for a good reason.
Rhaenyra is certainly being shown in a far more favorable (and inaccurate) light.
I say “ruined” Daemon —and that may be too simplistically worded—despite him being one of my favorite characters in Season1, because there is no way season-one-crab-dude-eviscerating-Valyrion-beheading-Rhaenyra-face-grabbing Daemon would have moped around Harrenhal playing with ghosts and letting a child own him in front of the Riverlords, imo.
I will be interested to see where they go with him now. And how far they stray from the book to keep Rhaenyra being “the good one”.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 11:54 am to blueboy
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But Hugh's words are puzzling, because I don't think Saera ever knew her brother's sons.
He didn’t say that she said he reminded her of them, he said that she said he was no different than them (assuming she meant in hierarchical stature).
Posted on 7/29/24 at 12:01 pm to Sugarbaker
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I say “ruined” Daemon —and that may be too simplistically worded—despite him being one of my favorite characters in Season1, because there is no way season-one-crab-dude-eviscerating-Valyrion-beheading-Rhaenyra-face-grabbing Daemon would have moped around Harrenhal playing with ghosts and letting a child own him in front of the Riverlords, imo.
The Daemon plotlines are difficult, because up until this point in the war he really doesn't do much of anything other than what has generally been shown, going to Harrenhall and putting together an army. So on one hand that could have been touched on in just a couple episodes and we'd get the idea, but then again, the actor and character are fan favorites, and we even see his name first in the intro credits, so he cannot simply be left out.
Unfortunately, depending on how far they advance the war in S3, it may not get much better for a while.
Do you end S3 with the fall of King's Landing? Maybe First Tumbleton (would be my choice for the "OH shite!" factor)? Either way, Daemon wont have a huge role.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 12:09 pm to LoneStarTiger
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Do you end S3 with the fall of King's Landing?
If they drag out season 3 to where the fall of KL is the end then this will be a 10 season show and thats not a good thing at all.
I'd assume we get Gullet to end this season and then they take KL in episode 1 or 2 in season 3. Maybe it can be delayed to episode 3 but anything more than that and the show may become unwatchable.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 12:17 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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I'd assume we get Gullet to end this season and then they take KL in episode 1 or 2 in season 3. Maybe it can be delayed to episode 3 but anything more than that and the show may become unwatchable.
Right, I think there is something like 2 weeks between the Battle of the Gullet and the Fall of KL, they better not stretch it out past a few episodes into the 3rd season.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 2:10 pm to stuckintexas
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Even though I've watched HotD since the premiere, I still went into it thinking EVERYONE is gonna die in this show.
This right here. We know some spoilers from GoT and we pretty much know the war ends the dragons in Westeros. It's anti-climactic. Kind of like how the Star Wars prequels underwhelmed because we knew how Anakin ended up.
Also, who do you root for in all of this? In GoT it was easy, we loved Tyrion and hated Joffrey and Cersei. We loved the Starks and rooted for Jon Snow. This show suffers because, with the exception of one scene, the North has not been shown and there is no side to root for.
The visuals are great, the acting has been good, and even the dialogue has been good. It's been far better than GoT seasons 7&8.
My personal issue, I am in season 4 of watching Black Sails. You watch Black Sails and juxtapose it with this and HoD doesn't come close, though HoD is better than anything currently on TV.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 2:48 pm to blueboy
anyone else still nixed they didn't have alicent get naked for that swim? really wanted to see that phatty smh
Posted on 7/29/24 at 3:00 pm to scottydoesntknow
quote:Yes, and people will complain either way.
Agreed, something isnt adding up. Is all this in the book?
Posted on 7/29/24 at 3:04 pm to Henry Jones Jr
quote:You schluff it off as if it is nothing when in actuality it is everything.
but that is basically the only reason she should be considered queen
Posted on 7/29/24 at 3:15 pm to Sugarbaker
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They have surely strayed, yes. And not in a particularly good way, nor for a good reason.
Rhaenyra is certainly being shown in a far more favorable (and inaccurate) light.
The source material is giving perspectives from several faulty narrators. My understanding is this series is supposed to show what really happened.
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