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re: House of the Dragon: S2 Episode 7 "The Red Sowing" (SPOILERS)
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:38 am to Epic Cajun
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:38 am to Epic Cajun
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I think Ulf was just going on a joy ride
i expected him to make a low pass by the pub and his drinking buddies to let them know he's got his own dragon
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Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:52 am to LoneStarTiger
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The weak spot in this show is there is no likable character, there's nobody to cheer for, and nobody who's death would be emotional.
I tend to agree. For me, Rhaenys was the most likeable character.
Maybe they develop Rhaenyra more, but I’m indifferent to her. Although I like her more now that they’re making her do things rather than sitting at Dragonstone doing nothing.
Idk, I feel like GOT had much more impactful character development and interaction where you were forced to decide who you liked.
We’re not getting that with HOD since the main characters are just kind of off doing their own thing.
We need interaction between Rhanyra and Daemon (I’m so sick of his Harenhall story line), we need interaction between Rhaenyra and the Greens, etc.
It’s visually stunning, but the plot needs a serious shot in the arm.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:56 am to ibldprplgld
I think part of the issue is the source material. In GOT you had 5 books of character development. HOTD is being produced based of a historical account. Fire & Blood is nothing like the novels, so you rely on writers to fill in all of these gaps, and you just don't care for the characters.
As much as I loathe the fat man for never finsihing the novels, he wrote excellent characters and dailogue, as evidenced by the precipitous drop in quality in seasons 7 and 8 of GOT.
As much as I loathe the fat man for never finsihing the novels, he wrote excellent characters and dailogue, as evidenced by the precipitous drop in quality in seasons 7 and 8 of GOT.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:00 am to Civildawg
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Man seeing the dragons assemble was so badass but they have got to move this thing along at a better pace. I defended the pace early in the season but here we are at the end and literally nothing has happened. The Dameon thing is just eye rolling at this point
I'm in the same boat. Don't get me wrong, this is a very good show but it definitely fails to reach GOT levels of incredible. Point and case is that this thread will only last a couple of days before it dies. The GOT threads went Sunday to Sunday.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:01 am to scottydoesntknow
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Agreed, something isnt adding up. Is all this in the book?
Yes. In the book though, they don't tell you how they attempted to claim dragons. Just that the bastards were called upon and many died in the attempt. The blacks do have a glut of dragons on the book though.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:02 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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I'm in the same boat. Don't get me wrong, this is a very good show but it definitely fails to reach GOT levels of incredible. Point and case is that this thread will only last a couple of days before it dies. The GOT threads went Sunday to Sunday.
Pretty much same boat here. At times it feels like Daemon has been at Harrenhal so long that I have to remind myself why he went there in the first place.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:06 am to Draco Malfoy
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Hugh Hammer's mother, the one he was too ashamed to tell his wife about, was Saera Targaryen, the ostracized daughter of King Jaehaerys. She is one of the most interesting, most compelling members of House Targaryen in history. And thanks to her bastard son she's far more important than we ever knew.
IDK that that is true. Like you said, Saera is Jahaerys's daughter while Daemon and Viserys were the sons of Baelon the Brave. Hugh said his mom was siblings with Daemon and Viserys so that would mean that she is a bastard of Baelon.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:10 am to Bert Macklin FBI
Can someone be nice and give me the background of the guy that Deamen supposedly cut the head off of?
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:13 am to dallastiger55
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Can someone be nice and give me the background of the guy that Deamen supposedly cut the head off of?
That was Willem Blackwood. The Blackwoods have always hated the Brackens and when Daemon told him to bring them to heal for declaring for team green, Willem sacked the Brackens. Oscar Tully was pissed because the blackwoods acted without the permission of their leige lord and he knows that they may have acted on order of Daemon but they yearned for that order because of their hatred.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:17 am to Draco Malfoy
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It’s been confirmed it was Saera Targaryen which means Hugh is cousins with Viserys and Daemon
Again, It can't be confirmed. Saera was Jahaerys's daughter and Viserys and Daemon were Baelon's kids. If she was siblings to Viserys and Daemon, she cannot be Saera.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:24 am to lakeviewtiger
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Why change it up and then make him rail against it in the show?
It does make sense that he might have an issue with it. His mom is just kicking the can down the road and making his claim more difficult. The plan should be to use the bastards to win the war and then murder them
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:25 am to Jorts R Us
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I guess we are officially not getting Nettles. Is Rhaena going to get Sheepstealer?
The show met its DEI quota and didn't need another dark skinned character.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:27 am to boogiewoogie1978
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Should feature him more and should become a central character.
Now that he has the second biggest Dragon in the world, he will be a more central character.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:28 am to blueboy
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No, he said he was just like her brother's children, Viserys and Daemon.
Hugh's mother was almost certainly Saera Targaryen,
Viserys and Daemon weren't Jahaerys's children so Hugh's mom can't be Saera.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:29 am to JumpingTheShark
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In the book at least at this point rhaenyra is basically a blood thirsty revenge driven psycho
I didn't think she turned psycho until after the gullet.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:36 am to Bert Macklin FBI
That would do it.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:37 am to LoneStarTiger
Right. It got you when big characters died in GoT.
Ned in season one was a huge shock to non book readers.
Hodors death was a shock to all too.
This show the top cast could all die and I don't think many would care.
Ned in season one was a huge shock to non book readers.
Hodors death was a shock to all too.
This show the top cast could all die and I don't think many would care.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:38 am to Napoleon
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This show the top cast could all die and I don't think many would care.
The dragon deaths sting way worse than any of the human characters.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:41 am to Bert Macklin FBI
Games Radar
With such a cryptic description, we can’t decide at this point whether Hugh’s mother was King Jaehaerys I Targaryen’s bastard daughter, or a full-blooded Targaryen. But if the series is following George R.R. Martin’s works directly on this one, Hugh’s mother just may well be Princess Saera Targaryen.
Decider
‘House of the Dragon’ Reveals Hugh the Hammer is the Son of Saera Targaryen, the Princess Who Became a Prostitute
The Tab
House of the Dragon actor, Kieran Brew who plays Hugh the Hammer admitted there is nobody else his mother could be other than Saera Targaryen. If that’s not enough confirmation, I don’t know what is
With such a cryptic description, we can’t decide at this point whether Hugh’s mother was King Jaehaerys I Targaryen’s bastard daughter, or a full-blooded Targaryen. But if the series is following George R.R. Martin’s works directly on this one, Hugh’s mother just may well be Princess Saera Targaryen.
Decider
‘House of the Dragon’ Reveals Hugh the Hammer is the Son of Saera Targaryen, the Princess Who Became a Prostitute
The Tab
House of the Dragon actor, Kieran Brew who plays Hugh the Hammer admitted there is nobody else his mother could be other than Saera Targaryen. If that’s not enough confirmation, I don’t know what is
This post was edited on 7/29/24 at 9:42 am
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:41 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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Hugh said his mom was siblings with Daemon and Viserys so that would mean that she is a bastard of Baelon.
Not exactly what he said.
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"She used to tell me I was no different to her brother’s boys, Viserys and Daemon,
His mom was siblings with Baelon the Brave.
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