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re: HOTD: S2 Episode 3 (Spoilers) 9pm ET
Posted on 7/1/24 at 2:50 am to The_Joker
Posted on 7/1/24 at 2:50 am to The_Joker
What a great episode and show overall. The Aegon actor is excellent as are many others. I think what I absolutely love are the exploration of smaller houses, things not shown more in GOT like Harrenhal, and most importantly, the amount of time it takes to traverse the Seven Kingdoms.
Absolutely brilliant TV.
Absolutely brilliant TV.
This post was edited on 7/1/24 at 2:56 am
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 5:39 am to The_Joker
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The actor playing Aegon is really fricking good.
He was great in The King. Made an impression despite being in the film for about 5 minutes.
"Where be the big dog???"
Posted on 7/1/24 at 5:55 am to Civildawg
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The final scene was awesome
It was well acted; cant deny that. But i had a little difficulty with the idea that the very proud Quenn Rheanyra would sneak into Kings Landing dressed as a nun. All season she has been uppity and talks about "my throne" and usurpers. Then on a whim she says, i must talk to Alicent. And i dont know how quickly she got there (surely not sneaking in on a dragon) or who the nameless bodyguard that kinda went with her is. But that was a stupid decision that could have ended the war, her life, and her line. Strategically it would never be allowed or even considered. But i guess the writers had this dramatic scene in mind. And now Alicent knows she is in Kings Landing and she is more determined than ever to fight. She is just gonna let her leave?
It made for an interesting scene, but i dont know if it moved the plot along at all. We already knew Alicent misunderstood the king on his death bed. We already knew of the prophecy of the TPWWP. It wont change anything team green does. Not sure how it will change team black.
I think the writers just thought, oh these two actresses have good chemistry on screen, how can we put them together in another scene. So they came up with this far fetched idea to have Rhaenyra go to KL.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 6:08 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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It was well acted; cant deny that. But i had a little difficulty with the idea that the very proud Quenn Rheanyra would sneak into Kings Landing dressed as a nun.
Yeah, as well acted as it was I kept thinking "Didn't the heir just get his head sawed off? No way anybody from the public gets that close to another member of the royal family following that."
At least we got the satisfaction of Alicent being told she done fricked up.
This post was edited on 7/1/24 at 6:10 am
Posted on 7/1/24 at 6:32 am to Jorts R Us
four dragon eggs go to pentos
now we know…
now we know…
Posted on 7/1/24 at 6:54 am to WestSideTiger
The show is doing a good job of having the miscommunication also reveal some ASOIAF lore that the books hasn’t been explicit about (at least yet). Rhaenyra going to kings landing is beyond contrived but the fire and blood book is written from the point of view of people who lived through the Dance and only wrote what they knew about. They also might be embellishing details. One cool aspect of the show is it might reveal actual happenings that the books “authors” could never know.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 7:24 am to cgrand
2 questions. Is Joffrey going to the Vale with 2 small dragons and Rhaena going to Pentos with the 2 kids Rhaenyra has from Daemon +4 dragon eggs? Or are they all going to the same place?
And what's the significance of Aemond's coin? After he realized blood and cheese had been in his room he immediately looked under his table to make sure it was still there. Then he was fidgeting with it at the small council meeting. I don't remember seeing it in s1
And what's the significance of Aemond's coin? After he realized blood and cheese had been in his room he immediately looked under his table to make sure it was still there. Then he was fidgeting with it at the small council meeting. I don't remember seeing it in s1
Posted on 7/1/24 at 7:24 am to The_Joker
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Otto knows. He said so last episode. Aegon said something like “He made me King” and Otto replied with “Is that what you think?”
I don’t think Otto really “knows the truth.” I think in his mind, Alicent made a play. He knows it’s a political game, and that the power lies with those who are able to seize it. The truth of what Viserys said (or didn’t say) on his deathbed is somewhat irrelevant.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 7:36 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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But i had a little difficulty with the idea that the very proud Quenn Rheanyra would sneak into Kings Landing dressed as a nun. All season she has been uppity and talks about "my throne" and usurpers. Then on a whim she says, i must talk to Alicent.
It’s totally in-character for Rhaenyra. She has always made rash decisions that put her safety and standing at risk. Hell, as a kid she would dress like a commoner to go play outside the keep.
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Strategically it would never be allowed or even considered.
It was implied that she didn’t tell her council what she was doing. I assume because she knew they would never allow it.
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And now Alicent knows she is in Kings Landing and she is more determined than ever to fight. She is just gonna let her leave?
I think you may have misunderstood Alicent’s doubling down. She realizes that she was probably wrong, but it’s out of her hands now. There’s nothing she can do to stop the war - as she said, it’s too late.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 7:37 am to lostinbr
Was the guy in the tavern claiming to be an illegitimate Targaryen someone we have seen before? I didn’t do a S1 rewatch like I should’ve, but it didn’t ring any bells.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 7:44 am to Crimson K
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Was the guy in the tavern claiming to be an illegitimate Targaryen someone we have seen before? I didn’t do a S1 rewatch like I should’ve, but it didn’t ring any bells.
No, he's new to the show.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 7:47 am to lostinbr
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I don’t think Otto really “knows the truth.” I think in his mind, Alicent made a play. He knows it’s a political game, and that the power lies with those who are able to seize it. The truth of what Viserys said (or didn’t say) on his deathbed is somewhat irrelevant.
Agreed. I don't think he ever really believed Alicent, but it was convenient for his already made plans so he went along with it.
Rhaenyra went to Kings Landing as a one last attempt to stop the war. Her council was pressing more and more to act. She knew her only possible avenue was to speak to her childhood best friend. After leaving that meeting, it was apparent she now realizes war is inevitable.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:01 am to lostinbr
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I think you may have misunderstood Alicent’s doubling down. She realizes that she was probably wrong, but it’s out of her hands now. There’s nothing she can do to stop the war - as she said, it’s too late.
I kinda took what she said and how she said it to mean that if she admitted that it was all a misunderstanding that everything that has transpired up until that point was in vain and meaningless. Why else throw in the “aemond is what he is” line
Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:06 am to Mickey Goldmill
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After leaving that meeting, it was apparent she now realizes war is inevitable.
Yeah but that is kind of the dumb part. War was already inevitable. This meeting never took place in the books and plenty of war still happens. They have been killing each other's kids, but now since the two childhood friends had a talk the war is ratcheted up? No.
The show wants to limit the culpability of the two main females. Rhaenyra gets to act like she is completely innocent and Alicent just made a mistake in understanding her sick husband. They want them to come across as sympathetic.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:16 am to lostinbr
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It’s totally in-character for Rhaenyra. She has always made rash decisions that put her safety and standing at risk. Hell, as a kid she would dress like a commoner to go play outside the keep.
Going outside the castle walls to play as a child is not the same as an enemy queen going into the castle to sneak up on the opposing king's mother. No comparison. We have seen that it is not uncommon for Targs to slip outside the walls for a little fun. This was sending the queen into the enemy stronghold with one unnamed guard. Insanity.
I was thinking well maybe this guard is the old school version of Sir Barristan Selmy and he would be ready for some hero shite. Nah, just drop the queen off outside church and wait, Sir Noname.
This post was edited on 7/1/24 at 8:17 am
Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:28 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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Yeah but that is kind of the dumb part. War was already inevitable. This meeting never took place in the books and plenty of war still happens. They have been killing each other's kids, but now since the two childhood friends had a talk the war is ratcheted up? No.
It's still not crazy to think she would try one last time before all out war broke out. This wasn't simply two childhood best friends. They have power here (though Rhaenyra thinks Alicent has more power than she actually has at this point).
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The show wants to limit the culpability of the two main females. Rhaenyra gets to act like she is completely innocent and Alicent just made a mistake in understanding her sick husband. They want them to come across as sympathetic.
How has culpability changed for them following that meeting? The only difference is now Alicent knows the truth (which was super satisfying as a viewer).
Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:31 am to Crimson K
That guy is new to the show I don’t know what the plot is there but he was the guy in the last episode who asked who the guys hanging were and the lady explained they were rat catchers. Not sure if he is telling the truth or blowing smoke but the show is hinting at other dragon seeds but who knows. I thought perhaps he was blowing smoke to see who spoke treason and would turn them in but he looked terrified when Aegon came in
Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:37 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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The show wants to limit the culpability of the two main females. Rhaenyra gets to act like she is completely innocent and Alicent just made a mistake in understanding her sick husband. They want them to come across as sympathetic.
I made similar comments in the thread for last week's episode. A few people had issues with those comments but I get where you are coming from. Alicent's role in kicking off this conflict is very different than the accounts in the books. Of course, you could just argue that this show is yet another version of events or the actual version; however, you want to look at it.
That said, I don't really have an issue with it. I think playing up the Alicent-Rhaenyra relationship helps bind the story a bit better and I don't mind the nuance with Alicent. If they just wrote her as a scheming bitch, no one would be conflicted about picking a side. I think this angle keeps the audience a bit more neutral albeit not completely neutral.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:41 am to Mickey Goldmill
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It's still not crazy to think she would try one last time before all out war broke out.
Sure. Send a raven.
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How has culpability changed for them following that meeting?
Bc we get the whole speech from Alicent about how its too late and it doesnt matter. We also have it made clear that Alicent made a mistake. She now knows it, but is powerless to stop it. Is that not limiting her culpability?
These two women are at the root of the war. Rhaenyra bc she wanted to throw her pussy around and pretend her bastards were the real heir. And Alicent bc her daddy told her, here's your one chance Fancy dont let me down.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:45 am to Jorts R Us
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If they just wrote her as a scheming bitch, no one would be conflicted about picking a side.
Team Green is what, maybe 10% of the audience? The only thing likeable about the Greens is the actors are doing a good job. They made the Hightowers like the Lannisters, pretty clear antagonists.
I thought the show would be more of a "pick a side" saga, but it seems very favorable to Rheanyra's faction.
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