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Hot take: Was nostalgia-bait WORSE in the 90s?

Posted on 11/23/21 at 7:55 pm
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
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Posted on 11/23/21 at 7:55 pm
(Note: I’m not asserting anything about these movies qualities. I really like some of them.)

Dick Tracy
Addams Family
The Brady Bunch
Casper
The Little Rascals
Flipper
McHale’s Navy
Lost in Space
Leave it to Beaver
Mission: Impossible
Inspector Gadget

I’m sure I’m missing dozens more. But it seems like we went through glut of pop culture remakes in the 90s. I wonder if it might rival or best the current 80s nostalgia-bait?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/23/21 at 7:57 pm to
The population really fueling nostalgia today was coming of age when those movies were coming out
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
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Posted on 11/23/21 at 8:01 pm to
One thing I would note different about today’s nostalgia-fest is the cult-like characteristics of the current era.

The Addams Family movies (which I liked) came and went and we were happy with them. Nowadays, we would demand more sequels or at least a Wednesday/Pugsley standalone movie.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 11/23/21 at 8:08 pm to
The difference is each of those nostalgic movies had stories that compensated or masked the over dose of nostalgia porn

Today, stories, plots, and characters suck hard Johnson so nostalgia carries the entire movies
Posted by Smokedawg
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Posted on 11/23/21 at 8:09 pm to
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Addams Family
The Brady Bunch
Casper
The Little Rascals
Flipper
Leave it to Beaver


GOATS movies for 90’s kids
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 11/23/21 at 8:13 pm to
If there’s one thing to be learned from that list, it’s “don’t give the annoying child a lot of speaking lines unless their name is Christina Ricci.”
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 11/23/21 at 8:33 pm to
Yes, but the difference is outside of Mission Impossible, they were one offs and love letters to the original material (Mission Impossible was in fact much better).

But those weren’t the crutches we’re seeing today. All our current media has is taking over these properties as if they were Yerks from Animorphs and just intentionally bastardize them. They do not like these properties and want to destroy them to indoctrinate the audience into their political views.

I’ll get back to The Last Jedi later, but I think the best comparison is the Female Ghostbusters reboot vs the current Ghostbusters. The later is clearly a love letter to the originals, but the former has nothing but disdain for it. When it was announced that they were doing a female Ghostbusters and the fans were concerned, their response was to make the most vindictive and unfunny villain ever made. Baldwin’s Trump is a hundred times less vindictive and more funny towards Trump’s fanbase than that villain is toward Ghostbuster’s. It is the single worst villain of all time since all it does is call the fans a bunch of basement dwelling virgins that deserve to be despised and alone and that the fanbase as a whole has no redeeming features. If you want a fanbase to like your movie, literally do the opposite of this.

Plus the only decent male in the movie is dumber than shite and disparaging which is yet another sexist comment.

All that movie shows is we your elites are better than you, buy the fricking ticket, you’re a fricking moron and we won’t give you what you ask for and simply make fun of you throughout the entire film, and shut the frick up. It is the most vindictive movie ever made towards its own target audience IMO, even blowing TLJ out of the water. At least there they were putting some effort into it and the characters as much as I disagree with it. This movie has absolutely no redeeming features.

We should have known better that any of these reboots/sequels outside of Blade Runner we’re going to be any good after this image:



But I think there is a franchise worth revisiting and it’s got a lot of producers all over Hollywood involved in it, and I think they may go along with this: Gremlins 3. Just make it to where either Billy Peltzer or his son makes it into Hollywood, Gizmo shows up, and then everything goes to hell with the Gremlins popping out and just destroying all the reboots and sequels of famous properties like Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Marvel, DC, Harry Potter, Mad Max, etc. The producers may want to do something with the Gremlins, but here’s the kicker: the Gremlins don’t give a frick and won’t go along with shite, taking the producers, cast, and crew hostage for their own amusement destroying them ever wanting to do an unwarranted sequel or reboot. That could be great with them just shitting all over the reboots.
Posted by nes2010
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Posted on 11/23/21 at 8:39 pm to
The Beverly Hillbillies wasn't bad either.

This post was edited on 11/23/21 at 8:42 pm
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 11/23/21 at 8:50 pm to
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The Beverly Hillbillies wasn't bad either


Yep, that’s one I forgot. Lots of cheesy movies in the list. (Some unintentionally cheesy.) but I don’t think there’s an unwatchable one.
This post was edited on 11/23/21 at 8:51 pm
Posted by Jay Are
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Posted on 11/23/21 at 9:23 pm to
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as if they were Yerks from Animorphs


Due for a reboot
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 11/23/21 at 9:47 pm to
quote:

they were one offs and love letters to the original material

I don’t know why but it bothers the hell out of me when people call movies or shows “love letters” to stuff. It’s not a love letter it’s a movie damn it!

Again, not sure why it bothers me so much
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 11/23/21 at 10:16 pm to
There are many different ways to take an old property and reference it in a new property. One is an homage (love letter) meant to show appreciation for a source material. Another is a deconstruction meant to basically trick artists into thinking it’s an homage only to subvert the tropes and norms of the original. Finally, there’s parody/satire, where the original material is considered a joke to be poked fun at. This can be either a loving appreciation or a more cynical sniping.

For example, Mission Impossible is an homage, Brady Bunch movie is a parody/satire, last Jedi is a deconstruction
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/24/21 at 8:15 am to
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Again, not sure why it bothers me so much


Because it's usually bullshite. Every movie listed, except Dick Tracy and MI, was a naked cash grab marketed to nostalgic parents. Dick Tracy was a weirdo auteurist project marketed with nostalgia. Mission Impossible tried to leverage ip awareness into a new franchise, successfully.

It's easy for those of us who grew up in the 90s to think of these cash grabs as pure. They were not. All these family property reboots came from the same line of thinking. The Addams Family and Dennis the Menace made a shite ton of money, and studios wanted to cash in. They went mining for any 60s/70s ip that could have modern appeal.

The only one of these that I could recognize as a "love letter" would be The Addams Family, based on when it was made and on who made it.
Posted by Smokedawg
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Posted on 11/24/21 at 8:45 am to




Posted by AUCom96
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Posted on 11/24/21 at 8:59 am to
The difference is this:

Dick Tracy - 1990 - same year as Goodfellas, Total Recall, Edward Scissorhands, Pretty Woman, Dances With Wolves.

Adams Family - 1991 - same year as Silence of the Lambs, Barton Fink, The Fisher King, Cape Fear

Lost in Space - 1998 - same year as Thin Red Line, Truman Show, Saving Private Ryan, The Big Lebowski, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas


Outside of never ending Disney comic book and Star Wars leftovers, the modern movie world is mediocre to an extreme which makes the money grabs that much more glaring. And - as stated above - the tendency to have to change things to fit the "woke" culture is more grating than just your basic reboot.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 11/24/21 at 8:59 am to
quote:

Dick Tracy
Addams Family
The Brady Bunch
Casper
The Little Rascals
Flipper
McHale’s Navy
Lost in Space
Leave it to Beaver
Mission: Impossible
Inspector Gadget


Inspector Gadget was more of a film adaptation than a nostalgic remake. It was a 90's film about an 80's cartoon (that was still playing in the 90's).

Dick Tracy was more than just nostalgia bait. It was Beatty's personal pet project, it was the studio attempting to replicate the success of Batman '89, and it was a failed merchandising grab of epic proportions. The malls were packed with yellow raincoats and T-Shirts and all kids of crap, in the hopes that the Summer of Batman would reappear in Tracy form. Throughout the 90's you could go into a thrift store and see Dick Tracy stuff peppered here and there.

Posted by chinese58
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Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 11/24/21 at 9:11 am to
Parents didn't have Netflix or Amazon to be able stream a series they wanted their kids to watch, so there was an actual need for these movies. I don't even know if the series were on DVD.

With all of the streaming choices we have today, there is no need for all of the remakes.
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Addams Family
The Brady Bunch
The Little Rascals
Flipper
McHale’s Navy
Lost in Space
Leave it to Beaver
Mission: Impossible

None of these movies, based on a series, is better than the series, except for The Adams Family and Mission Impossible.

I didn't include Dick Tracy or Inspector Gadget because Tracy was a comic strip and I had never heard of Inspector Gadget when the movie came out. I didn't include Casper because I haven't seen the movie.
This post was edited on 11/24/21 at 9:30 am
Posted by kingbob
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/24/21 at 12:17 pm to
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I didn't include Casper because I haven't seen the movie.


It's a pretty run of the mill kids movie for the time period. Definitely a great Halloween watch with the family along with Hocus Pocus.
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