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re: Horizon: An American Saga tomatometer update

Posted on 6/26/24 at 4:07 pm to
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 6/26/24 at 4:07 pm to
I think the only potential review bombers for Horizon are the boomers pissed he left Yellowstone to make it.
Posted by Havoc
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Posted on 6/26/24 at 5:11 pm to
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i mean, costner isn't exactly known for being a MAGA hero so surprised they are hating on something he produced.

The Leftists don’t use logic or reason, just the slightest whisper that someone doesn’t stand with their tribe.
Posted by Dairy Sanders
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Posted on 6/26/24 at 5:15 pm to
This movie’s run time is really going to hurt it. Doesn’t help that they’ve already said it’s intended to be a 4 part story and they’ve only committed to the first two parts.

That said, I do hope it does well if it genuinely is a good movie. Unless the WOM is elite level, I’ll probably wait until it’s streaming to see it and if it’s worth the time I’ll go see the follow up in theaters next year.
Posted by Jay Are
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Posted on 6/26/24 at 5:48 pm to
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So clearly, like with The Acolyte, it's being review bombed.

Right?

Isn't that how this works?


No, dipshit. These people have seen the movie. Also, 46% means roughly half of those reviews are positive.

The movie isn't getting killed, it's getting shrugged. Metacritc score at 51. The vast majority of the reviews are in the middle, with only a few reviews being outright praise or hate. Several of you are trying to gin up a narrative about hating Costner so you can either get defensive if the movie doesn't do well or get boastful about smashing the libs if it does. Either way, it will be dumb.


Most of the reviews are saying it feels episodic. It's 3 hours long, and it's the first chapter of four planned 3-hour films. That's a lot of episodes. Hopefully it will play well to a base, but it definitely looks like a tough sell for a mainstream box-office smash.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 6/26/24 at 5:58 pm to
“Muh that’s Different”
Posted by chinese58
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Posted on 6/26/24 at 6:40 pm to
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These people are not well mentally
Exactly. Guilt, guilt, guilt, guilt, guilt, and then we die.

quote:

Manuela Lazic
There might not be a more appropriate and straightforward way to open an American Western than with a scene of a white settler tracing the foundations of the house he wants to build on some seemingly available plot of land. The colonial question at the heart of the genre is thus immediately introduced in Horizon: An American Saga—Chapter 1....

...Costner’s perspective on that question, however, isn’t entirely clear in that opening sequence, but it does end with the settler and his young child being killed by Apaches who are defending their territory, highlighting their rightful angerabout our history.



This post was edited on 6/26/24 at 6:42 pm
Posted by Pax Regis
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Posted on 6/26/24 at 6:46 pm to
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I am not gonna pay attention to the critics for this one. I know they are gonna hate it because theres probably no woke shite


It probably doesn’t portray western settlers as imperialist committers of genocide so it won’t be liked by the media.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 6/26/24 at 6:55 pm to
It’s also a historical epic and they work so hard and spend so much money on destroying our history or any marker of that history so of course they’re going to absolutely hate these movies.
Posted by TIGERSTORM
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Posted on 6/26/24 at 7:11 pm to
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That said, I do hope it does well if it genuinely is a good movie. Unless the WOM is elite level, I’ll probably wait until it’s streaming to see it and if it’s worth the time I’ll go see the follow up in theaters next year.



By next year you mean August.
Posted by Volvagia
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 6/26/24 at 7:12 pm to
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Even if it had great reviews it would be a massive surprise for it to crack $100m opening weekend


I think he meant overall. Not opening weekend.


If he expects chapter one to be over 100 million opening weekend he is delusions.
This post was edited on 6/27/24 at 6:44 am
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 9:04 am to
I think there’s more cope in ya.

Just reach.

This post was edited on 6/27/24 at 9:05 am
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 9:05 am to
We're going Friday.

KC was on Rich Eisen's show the other day and gave a great interview about Horizon and why he left Yellowstone. It made total sense. The man does love him some Westerns, which is great.

I am concerned about the length of this initial chapter, but I do want to see it on the big screen.
Posted by lacajun069
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 9:21 am to
What was theLast Bad Western you remember staring Kevin Costner? Remember he was behind bringing Dances With Wolves to the silver screen and it won the Oscar for best picture.
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 10:11 am to
True.

Open Range wasn't bad either.

He believes in this enough to put his own money in it, and had committed to doing it before Yellowstone. Then, when Yellowstone went longer than anyone thought it would, he had to leave to honor contracts he made to do Horizon.

That's what he said in the interview which I thought was very candid.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 10:58 am to
3hrs is probably gonna turn a few folks off
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:26 am to
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Just reach.


Which part was wrong?
Posted by boomtown143
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:34 am to
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3hrs is probably gonna turn a few folks off



yeah, ngl that's really long.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:52 am to
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What was theLast Bad Western you remember staring Kevin Costner?


Yellowstone. Other than that, he's got a pretty good track record with westerns.
Posted by TheNameIsDalton
Huntsville
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:53 am to
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3hrs is probably gonna turn a few folks off



I really enjoy Westerns but a 3 hr movie (with part 2 coming out in a couple of months) about an almost 70 year old playing cowboy isn't that high in the rankings of having a good time.

July is pretty stacked at the box office, I'll probably give it a pass.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 3:14 pm to
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Also, 46% means roughly half of those reviews are positive.



Anything below 60 is rotten. You're coping hard if you think 'roughly half' are positive. That's not reflected by the score.

Audiences could love it. IDK. We'll just have to wait and see.
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