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Has anyone seen the 67' version of Casino Royale? Some spoilers maybe

Posted on 2/18/20 at 1:00 pm
Posted by GamecockUltimate
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Posted on 2/18/20 at 1:00 pm
Its on one of the streaming sites, so I decided to watch it. Its one of the few bonds that wasnt made by MGM, so no bond theme music, or actors that are known. Most of it played like a serious movie, but the ending was the wonkiest most "get smart" crap ive ever seen.


I will say, I loved that since it wasnt MGM and they couldnt get Connery, they made a point to bring Bond out of retirement and have him bitch about the guy they "named 007 who drank and slept with too many women, ruining his good moral name" Thought that was pretty creative.

Yall should watch it though if you get a chance, especially bond fans. Thought it was different.
Posted by jbgleason
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Posted on 2/18/20 at 1:17 pm to
I am a huge Bond fan (judge away) and "David Niven" is my gotcha answer to anyone who claims to be a fan. The question is: Name all the actors who played Bond?
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 2/18/20 at 1:27 pm to
It's one of my favorite films. It's a great hodgepodge of directors and actors. It's Austin Powers except it's authentic 60's.

The most beautiful women (number and quality) of any Bond film.

The Burt Bacharach soundtrack stands up to or exceeds any other Bond soundtrack. In the 70's, it was one of the most sought after vinyl albums.

Just don't go into it expecting any type of traditional bond film. Some of the main stars have zero interaction. It's just 60's gags and insanity for fun's sake.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

The question is: Name all the actors who played Bond?


is this going to be a gotcha because of the 2-part made-for-tv bond movie where telly savalis was the bad guy?

i remember as a kid i would read the TV guides at the checkout just to see if any bond movies were going to be playing on the local networks.

good times waiting 2 weeks for 'goldfinger' to air on ABC.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:39 pm to
What exactly makes it a "67 foot version" of Casino Royale?
Posted by BRich
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Posted on 2/18/20 at 5:06 pm to
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the 2-part made-for-tv bond movie where telly savalis was the bad guy


No such thing.

Telly Savalas played Blofeld in 1969's "On Her Majesty's Secret Service", with Australian George Lazenby playing James Bond (his one and only time; he stupidly quit afterwards).

It was a theatrical release by EON/United Artists, not a 2-part made for TV movie.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 2/18/20 at 5:31 pm to
Just checking in to say that Timothy Dalton never gets the credit he deserves for his take on Bond.
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 2/18/20 at 5:55 pm to
It was a hell of a swing from Roger Moore, who was certainly the campiest one, to Dalton, who was certainly the grimmest one.

Doesn’t help that Dalton was a last minute fill-in after Pierce Brosnan got pulled back to do another season of Remington Steele.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 2/18/20 at 7:34 pm to
quote:

Just checking in to say that Timothy Dalton never gets the credit he deserves for his take on Bond.


This is the truth. He's honestly probably the closest to the book Bond as well.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:41 pm to
One of my favorite Bond movies (Her Majesty's Secret Service) at the time and it was the movie that allowed Diana Rigg to quit her day job with The Avengers.

She was absolutely beautiful back then but could give zero fricks and smoked and drank like a New York duck hooer.

Casino Royale sucked though.
This post was edited on 2/18/20 at 11:25 pm
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:56 pm to
quote:

I am a huge Bond fan (judge away) and "David Niven" is my gotcha answer to anyone who claims to be a fan. The question is: Name all the actors who played Bond?
Casino Royale (made for TV, 1954)

Barry Nelson as Bond. Peter Lorre is a great villain.



And now the tough one:

Bob Holness, who played Bond in Moonraker for South African radio (1956). The program itself is unfortunately lost.


Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:02 pm to
quote:

He's [Dalton] honestly probably the closest to the book Bond as well.
I would say Craig in Casino Royale

There are occasional hints of the book Bond throughout the series: "You've had your six" in Dr. No, Moore getting revenge for the murder of an agent in (IIRC) For Your Eyes Only.

However from the beginning the producers intended to make the tone lighter than the novels, which is where all the jokes ("She's had her kicks") come from.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:05 pm to
I think it's awful and borderline unwatchable.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:18 pm to
The '67 version is a mess b/c Peters Sellers quit/was fired during filming, and Niven was brought in while the script was rewritten to include as much Sellers footage as possible.

The highlights are Woody Allen's scenes (he wrote most of his lines) and the credits, with music by Bacharach and animation by Richard Williams.
Posted by FearlessFreep
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Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:30 pm to
quote:

The '67 version is a mess b/c Peters Sellers quit/was fired during filming
IMDB tells me that during the baccarat scene between Sellers and Orson Welles, the two actors were never actually on the set at the same time because they hated each other so much

It’s definitely an acquired taste. Think of if as more of a classic mid-60s big budget farce than a Bond film and you’ll enjoy it more.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:51 pm to
and of course Prime took it off tonight
Posted by The Midnight Rider
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Posted on 2/19/20 at 12:01 am to
quote:

Just checking in to say that Timothy Dalton never gets the credit he deserves for his take on Bond.

I’ve long held the belief that T-Dalt was the best Bond. People scoff at that, but I think most people just dismiss him because he was only in 2 movies.

He’s the only classically-trained Shakespearean actor to ever portray Bond. His take is gritty and grim and serious, and it certainly would be well-received in today’s era. Imagine a Sicario-like Bond film with Timothy Dalton. It was out of place and ahead of its time for the 80s - although both Living Daylights and License to Kill are SOLID Bond movies. He’s definitely the most underrated Bond.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 2/19/20 at 12:03 am to
He was boring. Brought little depth and his acting was flat.

Craig comes the closest to the book bonds.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
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Posted on 2/19/20 at 12:18 am to
quote:

I’ve long held the belief that T-Dalt was the best Bond. People scoff at that, but I think most people just dismiss him because he was only in 2 movies.

He’s the only classically-trained Shakespearean actor to ever portray Bond. His take is gritty and grim and serious, and it certainly would be well-received in today’s era. Imagine a Sicario-like Bond film with Timothy Dalton. It was out of place and ahead of its time for the 80s - although both Living Daylights and License to Kill are SOLID Bond movies. He’s definitely the most underrated Bond.
I like Dalton, and he was probably the closest to the Bond of the books until Craig in CR
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
9456 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:39 pm to
Dalton just ruined it for me because in everything after he seemed to play a similar character, even in his kids movies.

Like that terrible bugs and daffy movie, the rocketeer. He plays the same part.

Bronson is my favorite, they definitely played up his drinking and sex, but his facial expressions and line delivery are so good
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