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re: GoT S7 E5 "Eastwatch" MAESTERS THREAD

Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:49 pm to
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:49 pm to
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Don't know who the sword would be, but the hound is obviously the dog, and Gendry is most likely the horse.


Maybe the sword is Beric? or Jorah?
Posted by Crow Pie
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:50 pm to
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Why save Jorah from greyscale only to kill him?
Speaking of greyscale, Am I the only one that noticed the mature greyscale Sam removed from Jorah and the skin of the the dragon than Jon was touching last night looked alike?
Posted by KeyserSoze999
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:51 pm to
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Why do Jon, Tyrion, etc. think that showing her a WW is going to somehow cause her to go against her own self interest?


yeah its kinda lame, it assumes she is gonna all of a sudden want to get along, so they are gonna go through all that snow and risk everything on an assumption?
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:51 pm to
They're not trying to catch a WW. They're trying to get a wight (zombie). They don't need one of the leaders, they just need a dead guy walking around... As if tMountain isn't proof that that's possible...
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:52 pm to
He looks great .
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:52 pm to
Four arrested for leaking Game of Thrones episode: Report
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Four people in India have been arrested for leaking a Game of Thrones episode, according to a report by the international news agency Agence France-Presse.

The arrests are in response to the leaking of the hit show’s fourth episode, “The Spoils of War,” which leaked from Star India, one of HBO’s international distributors, a few days before it aired last week.

The four are accused of “criminal breach of trust and computer-related offenses.” The case was filed by a Mumbai-based company responsible for storing and processing GoT episodes for an app, the AFP said.

The leak of the episode is a separate case than the cyber breach of HBO by a hacker, who continued leaking material Sunday night (including episodes of the upcoming return of Curb Your Enthusiasm).
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:54 pm to
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They're trying to get a wight (zombie). They don't need one of the leaders, they just need a dead guy walking around... As if tMountain isn't proof that that's possible...


I wasn't really trying to separate the two, but you do bring up a good point. What if they go through all this, meet with Cersi, show her the living dead man, and she's like "So?" "I have one of those too.".

And Qyburn is all:
Posted by UpToPar
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:56 pm to
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I think the assumption is that seeing an actual White Walker will show her that fighting them is in her own self interest.


Is it though? Cersei's self interest is remaining in power for as long as she can. She's not taking orders from someone else. She knows her days are limited. I think she ultimately tries to go out in a blaze of glory. If I'm Jon, having the KL army fighting the WW with me would be a hinderance more than it would help. You have to assume Cersei has something up her sleeve, and an attack on her enemies while they are also fighting WW might be her best chance to kill Jon and Danny.
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:57 pm to
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Anyone else think the plan to bring a WW back to Cersei is stupid?


Tyrion's plan isn't to convince Cersei, it's to convince Jaime and have him convince Cersei.

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What motive does she have to help in the fight against the WW?


They don't want her to help, they want an armistice. Put the war for the 7 Kingdoms on hold until the WWs can be dealt with. Cersei will agree to this and said as much last night. Her plan is to buy time until she can find an opportunity to strike.
Posted by 19
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:57 pm to
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Am I the only one that noticed the mature greyscale Sam removed from Jorah and the skin of the the dragon than Jon was touching last night looked alike?


Long-term results from over- exposure to the Friendzone.

No, really, Shirene's greyscale looked nothing like Jorah's infection...the close-up of Drogon's nose was very similar.

Good catch.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:59 pm to
I have no clue why any of them would think it is worth wasting time (and resources) trying to convince Cersei to help. Either finish her off or pin her in KL and ignore her.

It is the equivalent of negotiating with ISIS.

Also they have to address the Jon parentage issue this season right? The cocktease on Bran and Jon missing each other then ole Raggar is going to really piss me off if he doesn't find out.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 2:00 pm to
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Is it though?


It is if she listens to Davos's "it doesn't matter who's skeleton sits on the Iron Throne" speech.
Posted by iluvdatiger
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 2:00 pm to
What do yall think LF was talking to the random girl about? Also, ehat was he discussing with Glover and the Vale guy?

Posted by cokebottleag
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 2:05 pm to
I agree there is something to this. But disagree with your associations.

The Father: represents divine justice, and judges the souls of the dead.
- Ned Stark, Tywin, Robert, Joer Mormont.
The Mother: represents mercy, peace, fertility, and childbirth. She is sometimes referred to as "the strength of women".
Caitlyn Stark, the Dorne mom whatsherface, Dany probably
The Maiden: represents purity, innocence, love, and beauty.
Sansa, Margery, the Sand Snakes, Cersei's daughter, Remy Baratheon
The Crone: represents wisdom and foresight. She is represented carrying a lantern.
Olenna, Bran, Melisandre
The Warrior: represents strength and courage in battle.
Jorah, The Hound, The Mountain, Jon, Khal,
The Smith: represents creation and craftsmanship.
Gendry, Tyrion
The Stranger: The Stranger represents death and the unknown. It is rarely prayed to.
Arya, No One, WW, varys, Qyburn
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 2:06 pm to
I haven't had a chance to read through the entire thread, but did anyone point out that the Magnificent Seven strongly resembles the Seven Themselves?

The Father: Jon
The Mother: Thoros
The Maiden: Jorah
The Crone: Dondarrion
The Warrior: Tormund
The Smith: Gendry
The Stranger: The Hound
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 2:07 pm to
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What do yall think LF was talking to the random girl about? Also, ehat was he discussing with Glover and the Vale guy?


Random girl is one of his spies.

He was plotting with the Glover and other northern leader to start promoting Sansas cause to be the leader of the north over Jon

Glover didn't start making a "Sansa should lead us" speech on his own. That's LFs plan right now and I assume he caught Arya spying on him so he planted that note to cause dissenten between her and Sansa
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 2:07 pm to
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What do yall think LF was talking to the random girl about?


Trying to fill the Master of Whispers role?

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Also, ehat was he discussing with Glover and the Vale guy?


Probably subtly pushing them to continue pushing Sansa to rule the north?
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 2:08 pm to
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What do yall think LF was talking to the random girl about? Also, ehat was he discussing with Glover and the Vale guy?

I think he was fueling the "Sansa should be our queen" fire by talking to Glover and Royce. The girl just seemed to be one of his messengers, like Varys little birds.

He is definitely playing Arya and Sansa against each other. Will they play along is the question.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 2:09 pm to
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It is if she listens to Davos's "it doesn't matter who's skeleton sits on the Iron Throne" speech.



Cersei would rather the whole world die, including her, than lose.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 2:10 pm to
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As if tMountain isn't proof that that's possible...


Ex-fricking-actly.
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