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re: GoT Middle Ground Thread - SN 7 - NO LEAK DISCUSSION ALLOWED - Book discussion okay

Posted on 8/17/17 at 7:30 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 7:30 pm to
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Do you think it is linked to why the Alchemist (Jaqen H'ghar) had Pate steal the key from the Citadel?



In the books, no. Euron said he had one but drunkenly threw a dragon egg into the sea with rage, but Euron is all about half truths. I'm convinced that Euron paid the Faceless Men with the dragon egg to kill Balon, thinking he was going to get a fully grown one regardless with his dragon horn. They're wanting to know how to hatch it and the Citadel is the biggest wealth of knowledge in the world.
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 7:46 pm to
I thought he was trying to steal The Death of Dragons book. Unless that has instructions on hatching an egg.
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Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 7:46 pm to
Trying to follow your thinking- Faceless man have a dragon egg and broke into the Citadel to find a way to hatch it?

Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 7:54 pm to
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I thought he was trying to steal The Death of Dragons book. Unless that has instructions on hatching an egg.



I think that book could have the secret of giving birth to dragons as well, or at worst how they can kill Dany's dragons. Whatever they are there for, it is for dragons.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 7:54 pm to
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Trying to follow your thinking- Faceless man have a dragon egg and broke into the Citadel to find a way to hatch it?



Yes
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:03 pm to
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Maesters Manifesto


Received, not opened.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:06 pm to
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comments section of a barstool sports article on Facebook

swim in polluted waters...get sick
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:55 pm to
Ok, some questions: Sam left Oldtown in a huff, transcribing old moldy scrolls... it is from these that Gilly read the "Rhaegar got an annulment and remarriage" bit.

I thought he just kinda left those, and went back to the forbidden area, to snatch up some locked books. In fact, I seem to remember him basically pushing the scrolls he was transcribing aside.
Did he take the scrolls he was working on when he left?

Did anyone still think the Archmaester was trying to point him in a certain direction, and did he leave before he got what the Maester wanted him to find? It seems quite a coincidence that Gilly was looking at scrolls that might have stated "Ned Stark took the child of this marriage North, and claimed it to be his own bastard son, fearing that the new King Robert would kill the baby if he knew it's true identity" in the next paragraph.

Also, for those clamoring for Cleganebowl- just what, exactly, is the Hound supposed to do with the Mountain? Nothing we've learned about the Night King's zombies seem to apply to him; different type of reanimation. I'd guess that you would have to basically destroy the entire body, since he's already "dead"; and that wouldn't be an easy thing to do when he's trying to kill you. I suspect a dragon could eat or burn him, but the Hound isn't able to do either of those
I just don't see what anything smaller than a dragon would do to break him.
adding this question= do we think the Mountain is "dead enough" that the Night King can do anything with him, or is he now safe, like Benjen is? The Children stopped Benjen's conversion and it left him basically like the Mountain; cold, black and pale, but no glowing blue eyes.

Is Brienne sworn to also protect Bran, or just the 2 Stark girls? I don't remember the conversation exactly, and this story seems to thrive on technicalities. And by extension, is Jon excluded, since he wasn't Cat's kid, or was it Ned Stark's kids? Just Cat's, right?

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Posted by iluvdatiger
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:22 pm to
How did Jaime and Bran get away from the Dothraki without anyone looking for them? How did Jaime not drown?

So my imagination led me to conclude that the current from the river swiftly drove them downstream and they popped up further down the river than where everybody was looking for them. One would think his armor would have been so heavy he sunk to the bottom, but I'm gonna blame it on that swift current again.



Tyrion meets Jaime and there is no mention of him charging a dragon?

they had more serious things to discuss I guess

Did Jon ship the dragonglass to the North?

Either the dragonglass is still on the boat at Eastwatch OR they had somebody from Winterfell meet them at the docks on the way to Eastwatch and unloaded the dragonglass so the winterfell smiths could get started on the weapons.

We can fill in the blanks with whatever we want I guess.
Posted by iluvdatiger
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:39 pm to
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broke into the Citadel to find a way to hatch it?





that reminds me, wasn't there a special flame or something in the books, maybe a candle somewhere inside the library?
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:40 pm to
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Also, for those clamoring for Cleganebowl- just what, exactly, is the Hound supposed to do with the Mountain? Nothing we've learned about the Night King's zombies seem to apply to him; different type of reanimation. I'd guess that you would have to basically destroy the entire body, since he's already "dead"; and that wouldn't be an easy thing to do when he's trying to kill you


The red titty witch turns the Mountain into a giant chicken and the Hound eats every chicken in the room.


Or alternatively, the Hound has to overcome the fear of fire he got due to his brother in order to use fire to kill his brother. But that's almost too perfect a story arc and solution.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:43 pm to
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wasn't there a special flame or something in the books, maybe a candle somewhere inside the library?


Sounds familiar, but I'm too tired to look it up right now. Maybe tomorrow if no one gets to it.
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 9:53 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:47 pm to
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Also, for those clamoring for Cleganebowl- just what, exactly, is the Hound supposed to do with the Mountain? Nothing we've learned about the Night King's zombies seem to apply to him; different type of reanimation. I'd guess that you would have to basically destroy the entire body, since he's already "dead"; and that wouldn't be an easy thing to do when he's trying to kill you. I suspect a dragon could eat or burn him, but the Hound isn't able to do either of those



Easy: Kill him with a flaming sword. It would be redemption for the Hound and would overcome his fear of fire. The Hound is a much better and resourceful fighter than the Mountain is. The Mountain simply relies on his ungodly armor and strength to win a battle.

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adding this question= do we think the Mountain is "dead enough" that the Night King can do anything with him, or is he now safe, like Benjen is? The Children stopped Benjen's conversion and it left him basically like the Mountain; cold, black and pale, but no glowing blue eyes.



I'm really hoping the second the Wall breaks his eyes glow blue.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:51 pm to
Be careful not to theorize in here OML. I know you wouldn't post spoilers but you have been in the 3ER thread and others could misperceive something you say and RA you.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:01 pm to
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I'm really hoping the second the Wall breaks his eyes glow blue.

How do we know the Mountain is actually dead/ a zombie? I know in the books he doesn't have his head but I don't recall anything in the show to suggest the same. I think it's very likely Qyburn messed up his brain and he mentioned the Mountian took a vow of slicence until all of Cersei's enemies are dead. But again I don't recall anything saying he's a wight.
Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:04 pm to
Do we need a return of:

Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:05 pm to
He's not a wight, but he is a reanimated corpse
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:07 pm to
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He's not a wight, but he is a reanimated corpse

But how do we know he's a reanimated corpse?
Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:11 pm to
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that reminds me, wasn't there a special flame or something in the books, maybe a candle somewhere inside the library?



Yep, the glass candle

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It is claimed that when the glass candles burn the sorcerers can see across mountains, seas and deserts, give men visions and dreams and communicate with one another half a world apart.


They haven't burned for thousands of years, but they are burning when Sam arrives at the Citadel in the books.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:12 pm to
I'm not making lists, but I have made a mental note of some of the names I've seen as the latest reply to that thread.
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