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re: GoT "Middle Ground" Thread - Sn 4 - Offseason Discussion ***Spoilers Possible***

Posted on 5/16/14 at 6:58 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 6:58 pm to
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I would think that if anyone on this board could spot a sarcastic joke, it would be you.

well i was on my phone at the time, and USMC is apparently cereal
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 6:59 pm to
It's still her dumbass fault that the whole war started.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 7:07 pm to
One could argue it's LF's fault
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 7:19 pm to
When she is right she is right (Theon & Lord Frey), but when she is wrong she is really wrong.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 7:25 pm to
I enjoyed Cat. Mainly because she made the majority of her decisions as a mother.
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 7:46 pm to
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She warned Robb about sending Theon going to the iron islands. That would have saved a lot of trouble if he'd have listened to her

Yeah. But that just proves that Robb was also an idiot. And that she didn't have his trust to the extent that he would follow her advice. (Same with him breaking the deal to marry a Frey girl to get him some steady Oona Chaplain poon).

I think the only thing she did that's had a positive impact was treating Jon so badly that he joined the Night's Watch. Otherwise he would have probably been killed at the Red Wedding also (I'm assuming he'd have been in Rob's army if he hadn't gone NW).
This post was edited on 5/16/14 at 7:48 pm
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:02 pm to
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well i was on my phone at the time, and USMC is apparently cereal


As creator of the thread and judge in these matters, I rule that trial by combat is warranted. The weapon will of course be alcohol. Whomever can consume the most before passing out is the winner.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:16 pm to
Ok many deaths at least make sense, Luwin made 0 sense.
Posted by USMCTiger03
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:50 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/16/14 at 10:55 pm
Posted by USMCTiger03
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:51 pm to
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:57 pm to
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Unless you bragged in the Maester thread about using that as an excuse

O'Reilly? Yeah I knew he was full of shite. Typical guy who thinks he's bullshitting people when he's painfully obvious.


FYI, that wasn't sfp, that was Carson random numbers.
Posted by USMCTiger03
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 11:31 pm to
That's why I edited.
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 5/17/14 at 1:18 am to
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and i made a guess as to why they're fighting. this topic has already been discussed and agreed upon in the damn Hodor thread



Have they told you who I am?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/17/14 at 1:19 am to
Heisenberg?
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 5/17/14 at 1:22 am to
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FYI, that wasn't sfp, that was Carson random numbers.



Den Fuher de Hodor made him out to be a scapegoat. CRN had like two posts in that thread. On wasy a "my bad"

Den Furher had three in our thread.

So really, he belongs on the list..

Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 5/17/14 at 1:24 am to
Posted by The Dude Abides
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Posted on 5/17/14 at 1:30 am to
Everyone should really watch The Complete History and Lore of Westeros. It's on the Season 1, 2 and 3 DVD's, they are narrated by the actors who play the characters. There are no spoilers, just history. It starts at the Children of the Forest and brings us to the end of season 3. History of all houses, lots of background on The Targaryans, Roberts Rebellion etc etc.

quote:

Also, how did Tyrell come into their money? I know it's been mentioned on the show but I can't remember.
It answers this question, and many many more. Hodors should definitely watch it.

The Complete History & Lore Of Westeros:

Season 1

Season 2

Season 3
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/17/14 at 9:55 am to
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This. I'm probably one of the biggest anti-Cat people around. She's screwed things up from the get-go and in my view is significantly responsible for a lot of the bad shite that has happened in Westeros. But killing a Frey, even a Frey wife is not one of her screw ups IMHO.


I'm all Team Littlefinger these days when it comes to blaming anyone for opening Pandora's Box in Westeros. Catelyn certainly didn't help matters any along the way with some of the decisions she made.

Agreed on Cat though. I don't see how anyone can blame her for following through on her threat when Frey flat out had her son and the rest of her family/friends/followers killed in one swoop in front of her despite her pleas to let a wounded Robb go. Especially when every Frey there was an accomplice to the Red Wedding.

frick the Freys. All of them.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/17/14 at 10:15 am to
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I'm all Team Littlefinger these days when it comes to blaming anyone for opening Pandora's Box in Westeros. Catelyn certainly didn't help matters any along the way with some of the decisions she made.


Yep, honestly Cat is one of LF's biggest victims. I think after being rejected by her, he no longer loved her, but was obsessed with her. While never acknowledging it even to himself, I think he wanted to personally sabotage Cat as much as Ned.

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frick the Freys. All of them.


Amen sister.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/17/14 at 10:16 am to
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One could argue it's LF's fault


Argue!? It's completely LF's fault that the war started.
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