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re: GoT "Middle Ground" Thread - Sn 4 - Offseason Discussion ***Spoilers Possible***
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:12 pm to wildtigercat93
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:12 pm to wildtigercat93
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The lannisters are the one with the bounty over his head, I doubt they would care to cash in on that and do them a favor
the lannisters put the bounty out for anyone to collect. i can't imagine they didn't send ravens to everyone telling them about the bounty. either way the hound should not have just been sent away without someone in the Vale being notified he was at the gate.
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:16 pm to Byron Bojangles III
I was under the impression that the Vale weren't exactly "friendly" with the lannisters because they were one of the few pro-stark houses left
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:18 pm to Ace Midnight
It is my assumption she is going to Braavos because the captain already told he would not go to The Wall. He said he is going to Braavos and then a lightbulb went off in her head and she pulled the coin out and said the magic words. But I guess it's possible he will take her wherever she wants to go since she said those words and gave him that coin.
I am of the opinion we can talk about this until we are blue in the face because not even Maesters know the answer. As long we continue to get odd indicators that something is up with Jon (ala Mel's staredown and offhand comments by others on the show) I see no reason why this can't be debated in all of the threads. You can't go in the Maester thread unless you read all the books and the same goes for the crackpot thread since there would be theories in there about things which we don't know yet.
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based on the dramatic close of the scene at the Wall. (Are we not supposed to talk about stuff like that here? Does that have to go in the Maester or crackpot threads, because I'm not sure I'm ready for either of those?)
I am of the opinion we can talk about this until we are blue in the face because not even Maesters know the answer. As long we continue to get odd indicators that something is up with Jon (ala Mel's staredown and offhand comments by others on the show) I see no reason why this can't be debated in all of the threads. You can't go in the Maester thread unless you read all the books and the same goes for the crackpot thread since there would be theories in there about things which we don't know yet.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:24 pm to wildtigercat93
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I was under the impression that the Vale weren't exactly "friendly" with the lannisters because they were one of the few pro-stark houses left
everyone's friendly with money though brother
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:25 pm to iluvdatiger
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But I guess it's possible he will take her wherever she wants to go since she said those words and gave him that coin.
It's possible, but doesn't make much sense
The assassin told her that if she ever changed her mind about going to Bravvos, show this coin to a local from there and say those words.
He didn't say "give someone from Bravvos this coin and say these words and they'll do whatever the frick you wanna do"
Plus what the hell is she gonna do on the wall?
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:28 pm to wildtigercat93
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Plus what the hell is she gonna do on the wall?
it was just to get back to Jon that's as far as she thought that out.
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The assassin told her that if she ever changed her mind about going to Bravvos, show this coin to a local from there and say those words.
technically i think it was "if you ever want to see me again" or something along those lines.
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:32 pm to wildtigercat93
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Plus what the hell is she gonna do on the wall?
In all fairness, that's what she asked the dude at first - and it was to reunite with Jon. She was obviously closer to him than her other siblings, except, perhaps Brandon. She thinks all her brothers are dead, except Jon, and that Sansa is on the run (not knowing she was at the Eyrie) - so, you fall back on what you know.
But, it was obvious when ole boy said, "We're going home" and she confirmed that home was Braavos - THAT is when she played her Faceless Man coin.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:36 pm to CE Tiger
quote:id love it if possible
i can email it out if you want it.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:42 pm to Ace Midnight
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She was obviously closer to him than her other siblings, except, perhaps Brandon
Jon and Arya were the closest of the Stark siblings. They were both outcasts and not all that understood by the people of Winterfell, although Robb and Jon were pretty close as well.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:44 pm to Ace Midnight
I wish they would of done that Arya scene several weeks ago. Have her out of site out of mind for a few weeks then have the endings be her sailing under that big statue at the entrance to the braavos ports. Woulda been cool.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:44 pm to Ace Midnight
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theory, based on the dramatic close of the scene at the Wall. (Are we not supposed to talk about stuff like that here? Does that have to go in the Maester or crackpot threads, because I'm not sure I'm ready for either of those?)
We don't talk about theories that haven't been appeared on the show in this thread. There is an 800 page thread on theories, which is really good.
examples
Theories on how/why the wildlings attacked the wall. Yes
Theories on who kills Jamie. No
Theories on who is Jon Snow's mother, does the mountain live. Only info to where we are on the show is at.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:45 pm to OMLandshark
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They were both outcasts and not all that understood by the people of Winterfell
Jon got her Needle
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Robb and Jon were pretty close as well.
Jon actually seemed close to all of them, perhaps compensating for having a negative relationship with Cat.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:47 pm to TigerintheNO
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Theories on who kills Jamie. No
Wut...
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:47 pm to iluvdatiger
Regarding Jon's parents, at the point in the books the show has reached there is no definitive answer. There are some hints in the books just as in the show, but who knows which could be a red herring. A big omission from the books by the show was the fever dreams Ned Stark had in Season 1.
Here is a recreation of the scene from the book for those who might want to see it: LINK
Here is a recreation of the scene from the book for those who might want to see it: LINK
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:47 pm to Ace Midnight
He wasn't very close with Sansa. At least not in the first book that I can tell.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:49 pm to UMRealist
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He wasn't very close with Sansa. At least not in the first book that I can tell.
Nope. Sansa kind of took after her mother, and while she didn't hate Jon, she looked down on him for being a bastard, while his other siblings didn't.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:51 pm to UMRealist
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He wasn't very close with Sansa.
Good point - but Sansa only had a halfway decent relationship with Robb and maybe Bran. She and Arya were always at each other's throats.
ETA: Sansa's a b-word - by far, my least favorite Stark.
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:51 pm to UMRealist
He used a poor example with Jaime. He means to say we can't theorize about things which may or may not happen in the books in the future, not to confirm or deny that any character is dead or alive.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:51 pm to wildtigercat93
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I was under the impression that the Vale weren't exactly "friendly" with the lannisters because they were one of the few pro-stark houses left
I wouldn't say they were pro-Stark at all. Both of the Tully girls (Cate&Lysa) falsely accused the Lannister children of crimes. One of the girls was married to a Lord Stark the other to Lord Arryn. They are both dead, most of the Lords of the Vale(I think they have the most Lords of any kingdom, OLM Shark might know.) have no beef with either the Lannister or the Starks. The Vale decided to sit out the War of the 5 Kings.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:52 pm to UMRealist
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Theories on who kills Jamie. No
just picked a random character that hasn't died
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