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re: GoT "Middle Ground" Thread - Sn 4 - Offseason Discussion ***Spoilers Possible***

Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:08 am to
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:08 am to
By Nativebullet:

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Thanks. Was her only betrayal to be in bed with the king or there something directly related to Tyrion?


That and, by Neauxla:

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Yeah I didn't totally get why Arya started laughing and apparently turned around.


drove me over here, this morning.

I'd rather have things spoiled than deal with any of that any longer - my boy is completely caught up with the books and Mrs. Midnight is in Book 4, so I'm already dealing with potential spoilers all the time.

At least they're not Hodors.



Posted by chryso
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:11 am to
I would LOVE the combined epub, please.
That would make it so much easier on my reread.

chrysolsu at gmail

Thanks.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:43 am to
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I'm officially a middle grounder, now.


House Middle Ground continues to gain power and influence thanks to the blatant stupidity and paranoia of House Hodor.
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:45 am to
idk if people just like to troll with stupidity or they really just dont pay attention at all to what is going on and just like the moving pictures.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:48 am to
There are some trolls for sure. I just hope they don't make it over here. Thankfully coco and the other most spoiler-phobic Hodors remain the best target for the trolls.
Posted by BlackleafBaller
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:51 am to
Started from the bottom, now we're here.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:53 am to
You want to talk about comotose Khal dragos level of Hodor?

How about the guy that asked why Tywion killed Shea. And then when someone explained it to him about the trial and her fricking Tywinn, he was like "damn I forgot about that, there's so much to keep up with on this show"


Jeeeeeeez.
Posted by iluvdatiger
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:56 am to
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Someone thinking that Tywin was the king or wondering why Arya laughed when told Lysa was dead - those were the last straws for me. I'm officially a middle grounder, now.


what about someone asking what Arya's coin means? Or Why did Tyrion kill Shae?

I bought books 4 and 5 last night and started reading them combined as suggested.
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 11:57 am
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:56 am to
He's clearly the new low. You'd think just by osmosis he'd know that. Did he fricking miss Joffrey for 3 seasons?
Posted by iluvdatiger
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:59 am to
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:00 pm to
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what about someone asking what Arya's coin means?


That one might have been understandable, but the opening setup flashed back to the scene where Jaquen gave her the coin and told her the words.

Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:01 pm to
on why the hound and Arya left. Uhhh her sister was there. even though she was Alayne LF was there too

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I don't think the guards believed she was really Arya Stark. And with Lysa dead there was no one at the Eyrie to confirm who she was.

This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 12:02 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

How about the guy that asked why Tywion killed Shea. And then when someone explained it to him about the trial and her fricking Tywinn, he was like "damn I forgot about that, there's so much to keep up with on this show"


Yeah - that literally just happened a few weeks ago. This isn't some obscure, Maester level information from like the first couple of episodes this season or past seasons. The trial was in May.

Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:03 pm to
Plus the guards had no idea Sansa Stark was there. It was a secret known only to a few lords.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:03 pm to
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That one might have been understandable, but the opening setup flashed back to the scene where Jaquen gave her the coin and told her the words.


It's not even that they were confused on where she was going, it was that he thought people were book readers because they knew she was going to Bravvos
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:05 pm to
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Plus the guards had no idea Sansa Stark was there. It was a secret known only to a few lords.



Still with the bounty on his head if the Hound shows up at your gates you're going to just ignore that and not go tell a Lord?
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 12:06 pm
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:06 pm to
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It's not even that they were confused on where she was going, it was that he thought people were book readers because they knew she was going to Bravvos



that threw me off the most. Cokes saying "you defiantly don't know for sure she's going to Braavos.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

it was that he thought people were book readers because they knew she was going to Bravvos


Okay - we could literally do this all day, but I did not come here to derail the middle ground thread, but to join it.

So, I pegged Jojen dying right on that spot, before he even got stabbed - the actor did a good job of conveying that he knew his task and journey were done.

I'm also not discouraged in any way from my R+L=JS theory, based on the dramatic close of the scene at the Wall. (Are we not supposed to talk about stuff like that here? Does that have to go in the Maester or crackpot threads, because I'm not sure I'm ready for either of those?)

Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:09 pm to
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Still with the bounty on his head if the Hound shows up at your gates you're going to just ignore that and not go tell a Lord?


The lannisters are the one with the bounty over his head, I doubt they would care to cash in on that and do them a favor
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:12 pm to
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The lannisters are the one with the bounty over his head, I doubt they would care to cash in on that and do them a favor


Since the Vale remains staunchly neutral in all of this, I was curious myself. Obviously I understand the Hound (with a bounty) and Arya Stark (lots of people would be interested if they knew she wasn't dead) not wanting to stick around if Lysa was dead, but you'd think they would still, perhaps, make a call in to who was in charge. Of course, LF and the lords have an agreement to protect Sansa's identity, so I'm not sure that would have gotten very far, either.
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