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re: GoT "Middle Ground" Thread - Sn 4 - Offseason Discussion ***Spoilers Possible***

Posted on 6/17/14 at 4:06 pm to
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 4:06 pm to
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i wonder if Martin has a rhyme or reason to some names


Wun Weg Wun Dar Wun is named for Phil Simms.

Mohar, Lharys, & Kurleket the three guys that arrested Tyrion at the Inn are the 3 Stooges.

There is a reference to Bill Belichick
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 4:06 pm to
Brienne's chapters except for her last 1-2 sucked. The show has done A LOT better with spicing up her storyline.
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:07 am to
How big of an army did Stannis bring?
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:26 am to
Stannis has a famous quote later on saying that he smashed Mance Rayder's host even though he outnumbered him 20-1.

So if Mance had 100k, Stannis has around 5K.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 8:24 am to
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So if Mance had 100k, Stannis has around 5K.


But, 5k in metal armor, disciplined and well led were more than a match for the wildling horde. I always thought of the 100k as being the entire host - old, weak, children, and the fighting force was closer to 40k to 50k (maybe a few more, the wildling women fight, too) - more than a match for 100 at Castle Black - if they can breach/scale - but quite another thing to face Stannis' legitimate mounted force in the open.

ETA: I have abandoned the Hodors to their ignorance and paranoia.
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 8:26 am
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 8:57 am to
That's what I always thought too.
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:07 am to
I think your synopsis is dead on.
Posted by CE Tiger
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:14 am to
if you are doing a combined read of feast and dance there is an epub to load onto your kindle/nook/cell phone. unless you are one of those weirdos who like to actually touch the books you read and refuse to go the technological route.

i can email it out if you want it.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:29 am to
I haven't lurked the Hodor finale thread yet...I'm sure it's interesting.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:35 am to
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I haven't lurked the Hodor finale thread yet...I'm sure it's interesting.


As I indicated, the ignorance and paranoia have become unbearable - one Hodor more stupid than the next. Remembering things that happened in Season 1 is apparently spoilerish. As is watching the DVD extras - published by the show's creators. Asking, "Why did Tyrion kill the whore?" and having to be explained that "Tywin was not the king." - it just got to be too much. I've avoided the middle ground threads because near the end of last season, they were stacked to the rafter with spoilers.

But - I'm just past the Hodor stage now. I'm going to read as much as possible this off season and split time between here and the maester thread (one of which will become redundant if the fat man doesn't get of his arse and start writing).

Posted by jefforize
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:37 am to
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hodor thread


Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:39 am to
Oh, and I've forgotten the debate over, "Why didn't Mance just have everyone climb the wall?"



Or, "They could have constructed a giant pulley and pulled people over the wall."



The more I get read this summer, the more I will belong here.
Posted by jefforize
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:47 am to
A few of those dudes make comatose Khal drogo look like a Citadel member in comparison
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:50 am to
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Or, "They could have constructed a giant pulley and pulled people over the wall."


you are kidding, right?
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:51 am to
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you are kidding, right?



sadly no they said that
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:51 am to
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Tywin was not the king.


Sweet Jesus. Someone thought that Tywin was the King?

And someone put this gif in the Hodor thread to Nativebullet:

This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 10:59 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:57 am to
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Sweet Jesus. Someone thought that Tywin was the King?


I had already deleted all of my posts from the thread at that point, because of the paranoia. I lived through the pulley and even had some fun with it.

Someone thinking that Tywin was the king or wondering why Arya laughed when told Lysa was dead - those were the last straws for me. I'm officially a middle grounder, now.
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 11:00 am
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:59 am to
The actress the plays Marcella, isn't allowed to read the books, so when Joeffery died she thought she was the queen. She went on vine or tumbler and posted a video of her having a tiara placed on her head.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:02 am to
Seriously I can recommend that entire thread, now, as a recovering Hodor, purely for the entertainment value.

It's like they are a different species (most of them - some are good people and will eventually be driven here and to the books to escape the chasm of ignorance over there.)

This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 11:04 am
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:05 am to
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The actress the plays Marcella, isn't allowed to read the books


ha thats really strange.


and to ace, i havent read the books but abandoned the Hodor thread after season 2. the middle ground thread is actually the best place for discussion i feel. you get to learn the differences in the books without being spoiled and talk about why the show did certain things.
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