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God’s Not Dead 10th anniversary: not aging well

Posted on 3/30/24 at 5:54 pm
Posted by rebeloke
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Posted on 3/30/24 at 5:54 pm
God’s Not Dead has gone from bad to worse. It was a commercial success but got criticized for its its screenplay, Cronk's directing, performances, mean-spirited tone, characters, and use of straw man arguments and common stereotypes of atheists, instead of any actual debate. All fair criticisms but I just rewatched it with my daughter today and I found it to be much worse than my initial impression 10 years ago.

I am coming at this from a Christian perspective and was bothered this time around by things that flew past me at the theater. I am not sure that the poor caricature of the Muslim father bothered me back then. I couldn’t help but think how offensive it must be for Muslim’s to have themselves portrayed as bigots and abusive towards their children. Also it is an insult to portray a Muslim converting to Christianity. Imagine if a Roman Catholic family had a child convert to Islam in a movie what that would be viewed like.

In the initial viewing I think I suspended disbelief and ignored a major plot hole. Professor discriminating based on religion? Check. Professor banging a student and living together, then having faculty over? Check. Non-starter? Check.

The pastor in the movie is horrible. He doesn’t give 2 fvcks about anyone in the show. He seems bothered to have to entertain a visiting missionary. He leaves a college student going through a major ordeal with a couple of Biblical references and walks off. The Muslim girl is alone in his office 10 ft from he and the missionary. They have a conversation about her in front of her and discuss her while right outside the door to his office looking at her alone in a chair. It came across as apathetic. He calls a car rental guy liar to his face and reminds him that he is lying to a pastor. Then to top it all off they just pray for his personal car to start and bam it’s up and running again. Not very realistic and weakens the overall credibility of the movie.

But the ending flew all over me this go round. The prof gets fatally struck in a ‘hit and run accident.’ The pastor asks him to accept Jesus right before he dies. He then tells him that he is about to know more about God than any of us. This came across as it sucks being you! They are then standing over the dead prof when his blackberry receives the text from his ex-girlfriend “God’s Not Dead.” They look at the text and seem pleased.

The show ends with the prof dying in the street, while everyone is at the concert celebrating the fact that the kid stood up to the bad ole professor. His ex-friend is having the time of her life as is everyone else. Meanwhile the professor meets a tragic end. Oh well.

I found the ending very insulting. It was the moral equivalent of when a kid loses a parent and someone says to them at the funeral, “they’re in a better place now” or someone loses a child and someone explains “God needed them more” or “there’s another angel in heaven now.” All well intentioned but very dumb things to say to people in grief. No one shed a tear for the professor.
Posted by drizztiger
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Member since Mar 2007
36951 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 6:19 pm to
This definitely got moved from Poli talk to MTV.

This is the opposite of what should happen, admins.

3 upvotes in 20 minutes on MTV is ridiculously transparent.
Posted by Epaminondas
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Posted on 3/30/24 at 6:46 pm to
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how offensive it must be for Muslim’s to have themselves portrayed as bigots and abusive towards their children.
Yeah, they're normally so tolerant. Do you even honor killing, bro?
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/30/24 at 7:06 pm to
I have not seen this particular movie, but I have noticed Christian movies have gotten a ton better in the last decade.

Posted by biglego
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/30/24 at 7:37 pm to
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Also it is an insult to portray a Muslim converting to Christianity.


If you think this, then you’re not a Christian. Also, such an event would get the converted person beheaded in some countries by those insulted folks.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 3/30/24 at 7:51 pm to
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No one shed a tear for the professor
and

Mary Ann
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/30/24 at 8:04 pm to
Your Christianophobia is showing
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6515 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 8:12 pm to
Watched this movie with one of my best friends (who happens to be very religious)

They thought it was the best thing ever. I was appalled how they just made everyone non-Christian in the movie out to be awful people incapable of doing anything good without God in their life.

Was an ok movie but the propaganda was on par with a Disney movie
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
4531 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 8:37 pm to
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how offensive it must be for Muslim’s to have themselves portrayed as bigots and abusive towards their children.


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Yeah, they're normally so tolerant. Do you even honor killing, bro?



Not sure if your user name refers to the Ancient Greek statesman or the book Epaminondas and his Auntie.

If you’re a student of history, you know Christianity has a 700+ year headstart on Islam. We as Christians certainly have our history of atrocities large and small committed in the name of religion or using religion to justify, that continue today.

To the OPs point, in a movie that is allegedly made as a celebration of Christianity, stereotyping members of a different religion with a broad brush because of the negative actions of some - even a loud and significant number - is wrong.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16081 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 10:35 pm to
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If you think this, then you’re not a Christian. Also, such an event would get the converted person beheaded in some countries by those insulted folks.

Does being a Christian require you to be intolerant of others beliefs? This movie portrays Muslims in a very negative light. If your goal is to reach the lost, you might want to try not offending them and their culture at the outset.

I was affiliated with Northwood Church while living in Dallas which had a thriving outreach to Muslims. They had Imams frequently in dialogue with the lead pastor at the time, Bob Roberts. He has done mission work in Afghanistan. He grew a beard prior to meeting with local Elders in order to gain access to their villages. So yeah, I would say you may want to revisit your approach.
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
4837 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 10:53 pm to
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Does being a Christian require you to be intolerant of others beliefs?


Nope! It's okay, he's an idiot.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6515 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 10:58 pm to
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Does being a Christian require you to be intolerant of others beliefs?


This is a difficult question.

For some Christians it does, for others it does not. It's up to interpretation.
Posted by lsutigersFTW
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2008
7338 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 11:31 pm to
First was decent. Second was middling, but I wasn’t mad at it. Third, and I think fourth were bad.
This post was edited on 3/30/24 at 11:32 pm
Posted by LSUGrad2024
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Member since Sep 2023
240 posts
Posted on 3/31/24 at 7:57 am to
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To the OPs point, in a movie that is allegedly made as a celebration of Christianity, stereotyping members of a different religion with a broad brush because of the negative actions of some - even a loud and significant number - is wrong.


Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68111 posts
Posted on 3/31/24 at 9:03 am to
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Imagine if a Roman Catholic family had a child convert to Islam in a movie what that would be viewed like
An Oscar nominee.
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27094 posts
Posted on 3/31/24 at 10:56 am to
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This movie portrays Muslims in a very negative light.

Oh no!!!

Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49256 posts
Posted on 3/31/24 at 11:16 am to
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Does being a Christian require you to be intolerant of others beliefs?

Not a Christian but was raised such and there a ton of people that like to claim they are but clearly don’t follow their own beliefs. These people are the worst and most likely the ones to be dicks to others who don’t follow their religion especially towards Muslims
This post was edited on 3/31/24 at 11:17 am
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31574 posts
Posted on 3/31/24 at 11:20 am to
All religions have extremists.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49256 posts
Posted on 3/31/24 at 11:22 am to
I’m sure you’d throw a shite fit when you see a movie or show stereotyping Christians, don’t be a hypocrite
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27094 posts
Posted on 3/31/24 at 12:04 pm to
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I’m sure you’d throw a shite fit when you see a movie or show stereotyping Christians, don’t be a hypocrite



Yes, because this never happens in TV shows or movies.
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