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re: Go See Warfare In Theaters Before It's Too Late

Posted on 4/25/25 at 12:59 am to
Posted by Underwood
Member since Dec 2022
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 12:59 am to
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When that guy that lived there walks out after they leave and starts taking in all the damage they left it was almost funny. It really was a screw up.



I mean that is a great metaphor for our military involvement, we go in and frick shite up incomprehensible and then just leave like "oh well bye"
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
67799 posts
Posted on 4/25/25 at 7:50 am to
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I know many will probably disagree with me, but that was the least combat-effective SEAL team I've ever seen portrayed, BEFORE the IED blast.


Because it's not some Hollywood glamorization of urban combat like every other military movie ever made where the Americans are gunning down countless hadjis LOL. It's a painstaking reenactment of a real event that happened with the utmost commitment to accuracy based on the accounts of those involved. Vastly different creative imperative

They definitely had some that were scared, and they had a few that stepped up in the moment like the new guy and the asian from Alpha Two.

I'm not sure they even showed an Iraqi getting shot. They weren't trying to doll things up and have the SEALs just annihilate everyone as is usually portrayed. It was a faithful effort to depict the chaos that is urban combat. All the best training in the world still doesn't fully prepare you for it.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 8:04 am to
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I'm not sure what it was, but they didn't seem like a very tightly knit, highly trained unit. A couple of them came across as scared. The one guy who was inside when the IED went off and wasn't in the blast just seemed like a coward. I know many will probably disagree with me, but that was the least combat-effective SEAL team I've ever seen portrayed, BEFORE the IED blast.


The co-director, Ray Mendoza, was there. He is portrayed by the Native American kid that was on the comms most of the movie. We have no reason to believe it isn’t an accurate portrayal of the real events.
Posted by msap9020
Texas
Member since Feb 2015
2089 posts
Posted on 4/26/25 at 4:20 pm to
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I’m assuming they believed everyone meant to be medivac’d was dead. Later on the radio when a return mvac was fiscussed and denied they said it was due to the area being still compromised and that the Bradley earlier had taken damage


Just got back from theatre.

Actually the Bradley commander came on and said they had to evacuate their own casualties so apparently they had injuries inside the vehicle from the IED.
This post was edited on 4/28/25 at 9:43 am
Posted by msap9020
Texas
Member since Feb 2015
2089 posts
Posted on 4/26/25 at 4:24 pm to
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quote:I do have a question. What was up with the Marine kicking the wounded SEAL in the leg more than once? Is that some kind of Marine thing? I think that was that guys douchie way of getting him to “suck it up” until they got out of there. Obviously did not read the room well, I wanted to punch that dude regardless of his intentions What happened to the 2nd interpreter? The guy that was first to stumble to his feet after the explosion, did he run off or hop in the Bradley before it drove away? He just disappeared the rest of the movie Or did he get blown away too? I thought I could tell by his camo and AK that was him that stood up first but may have missed something


Actually that guy was a seal as well. He was from one of the other 2 teams that collapsed on the position from their OPs. I think he was just really amped up. It was douchey but thought it was a good representation of how different people react differently to combat/stressful situations.

The second Iraqi ran off down the street after he came to and saw his buddy blown in half.

This post was edited on 4/28/25 at 9:42 am
Posted by msap9020
Texas
Member since Feb 2015
2089 posts
Posted on 4/26/25 at 4:27 pm to
My question is why they didn’t use the M79 on the roof. Perfect situation for that weapon. A lot going on but somebody should have told them to bring that up. fricking drove me crazy.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83242 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 10:49 am to
Going today with my sons.

This post was edited on 4/27/25 at 6:06 pm
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/27/25 at 6:12 pm to
Saw it today with my two sons, aged 20 and 19.

It was a somber experience and I had to explain to them why we couldn't just "bomb" Iraqis despite their attacks on US troops.

I've been in the military for 19 years and thankfully have never been placed in a situation like this film.

My sons were speechless for most of the ride home.

My oldest said he didn't realize war was that brutal and my youngest said he liked the movie, but probably won't watch it again for at least 10 years.

Great film. Incredible sound. War is brutal.
Posted by leeman101
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2020
2435 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 6:27 pm to
Another question I have is why did they wait so long to administer the morphine? Seems that would be the first thing to do to help when stuffing the wounds with gauze. I kept saying where is the morphine. And when they finally got it the guy used the wrong end and jammed it into his thumb.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83242 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 7:05 pm to
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Another question I have is why did they wait so long to administer the morphine? Seems that would be the first thing to do to help when stuffing the wounds with gauze. I kept saying where is the morphine. And when they finally got it the guy used the wrong end and jammed it into his thumb.


They were combatants, not medics.

They just got their asses kicked. They weren't thinking clearly.
Posted by flvelo12
Palm Harbor, Florida
Member since Jan 2012
3562 posts
Posted on 5/3/25 at 8:49 pm to
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Unbelievable experience. If you wait to watch it at home, you'll be doing yourself a massive disservice. Very, very few movies demand a theatrical viewing. This is one of them.

Expertly produced with some of the best sound design ever put to film.


Saw it today. What an experience. I understand why you were recommending it so highly. Delved into the story / filming after viewing. Unreal, but very real. Thx.
Posted by flvelo12
Palm Harbor, Florida
Member since Jan 2012
3562 posts
Posted on 5/3/25 at 8:49 pm to
dp
This post was edited on 5/3/25 at 8:50 pm
Posted by JW
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2004
5173 posts
Posted on 5/4/25 at 9:20 am to
Went this rainy weekend primarily from the TD board buzz. I thought the opening scene was perfect and a great set up. The film is the most unflinching look at war that I have seen on film. Tense, brutal and funny at times.

The props, gunfire, art direction and of course the sound were all seamless. That is a very hard movie to make and they did a great job.
Posted by kjntgr
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8840 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 1:45 am to
My favorite scene , by far, was the aerobics


Rest of the movie sucked





(Kidding)
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
7939 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 7:52 am to
Don't all SEALS receive medic training? Not advanced SOF medical training, but training akin to what a regular army medic would have?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170709 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:22 pm to
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I heard the sound mix is incredible.

Perhaps the best I've ever experienced

Saw it last night in the theater

Difficult to watch in some parts. I definitely agree with the poster who said don't bring anyone who is squeamish to see it
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
107246 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 10:51 pm to
Did I miss an explanation of why the Seals were in that house to begin with? Though the lack of a clearly stated reason is effectively emblematic of that entire war.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38010 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 5:56 pm to
I don't recall it being said but it looked like it was intel gathering on that building with all of the activity. Alpha 2 had a different angle but was looking at the same guys
Posted by Lieutenant Dan
Euthanasia, USA
Member since Jan 2009
8400 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 8:09 am to
Was a good movie.


I found it odd that not one of the bad guys were shown getting shot.

I mean gore was there after the IED for sure. I just wanted to see the enemy combatants get their wigs split.


Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13571 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 8:22 am to
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regular army medic would have?

I think the bare minimum would be more like Combat Lifesaver, not even Army medic. It's clear that they received some instruction on how to control bleeding without a tourniquet (the knee on the femoral artery,) but that's Combat Lifesaver level (PDF warning).

Morphine admin needs to take into account whether bleeding is under control, because Morphine can cause vasodilation, leading to lower blood pressure.
quote:

Morphine can lead to both hypotension (low blood pressure) and hypertension (high blood pressure), depending on various factors such as dosage, individual health conditions, and concurrent medications. When morphine is administered, it causes vasodilation—this means that blood vessels widen, which can lower blood pressure. This effect can be particularly pronounced when morphine is given intravenously or in high doses
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