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re: Game of Thrones S7E1 "Dragonstone" Maester thread, no dummies allowed

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Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:07 am to
we've known that obsidian and some steel can kill a WW for a while now.
and fire for the zombies

dany has both

she appears to be the realms only chance to stay alive at this point
Posted by rrcar
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:10 am to
if you look good it looks like the night king was carrying a tusk which maybe the horn.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:10 am to
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So Mark Mylod is directing the next two episodes. I must say I'm a little concerned.
Care to elaborate?
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:10 am to
I think the question now is why Valyrian Steel can kill a white Walker. All swords are forged with fire. Is it that Valyrian steel is forged with Dragon fire which gives it the effect, or is Valyrian Steel actually "infused" with bits of dragon glass
Posted by frankenfish
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:15 am to
I read through most of these 57 pages and didn't see mention of the fact that Dondarrion, having been brought back to life by a red priest, is now a fire wights. If that's true in the show, does that mean that John Snow is as well?

It was Septon Ray who nursed the Hound back to health after Arya left him for dead after his battle with Brienne. As a Septon he's with the many faced god, so I assumed the Hound was healed that way; I wonder now if perhaps some red priest activity wasn't involved in his healing; is the Hound also a fire wight and that's why he could see the ice wights in the fire?
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:17 am to
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All swords are forged with fire. Is it that Valyrian steel is forged with Dragon fire which gives it the effect, or is Valyrian Steel actually "infused" with bits of dragon glass


Probably both.

I also wonder if the Night's King has some special weapon that will kill dragons in one fell swoop? You remember that Longclaw was the only sword that could hold up to that White Walker's blade.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:18 am to
They talk about the ripple look of Valyrian steel. I'm assuming it's forged with dragon glass to obtain that look.
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:18 am to
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Care to elaborate?


He has directed four episodes so far, and they haven't been the best. Now a good portion of the blame for those episodes is on the showrunners, but I'm still a bit concerned.

Some of his scenes so far include Arya getting stabbed, the waif chase, and Selmy's death. Again, it's definitely not all on him, but I can't help but feel he deserves some blame.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:19 am to
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Hasn't she and Tyrion talked about them


Not that I recall. As far as I know Tyrion doesn't think they're real either. He mocked the thought of them on the road to the wall.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:19 am to
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I'm not the one who thinks a 3 minute cameo ruined the whole episode.
yeah I never said that. but that's enough for you to write 40 pages of melt.

i'm sorry your delicate sensibilities have been offended
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:20 am to
I would imagine the most logical issue with the dragons in regards to the white walkers is that they would have the ability to warg into the dragons
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:20 am to
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Selmy's death
BOOOOOOOOOOO


HISSSSSSSSSS
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:21 am to
quote:

they would have the ability to warg into the dragons
what?
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:22 am to
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I could be mistaken because I often have GOT dreams about scenes that blend together


Put down the remote, maybe go outside and get some fresh air.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:22 am to
I would assume they're able to warg, since even some lowly Thenn's have the ability. Are they not?
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:24 am to
quote:

white walkers is that they would have the ability to warg into the dragons
has it been shown they can do this?

been a while since I read the books and I don't remember white walkers being able to do this.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:25 am to
No, I guess I just assumed 12,000 year old necromancers of the north would have the ability since it isn't uncommon amongst northerners

It's been foreshadowed that Bran will warg into a dragon, I guess it just wouldn't shock me if the night king did as well
This post was edited on 7/17/17 at 11:28 am
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:26 am to
Well, if you remember, the Night's King was able to grab Bran when he was warging, which humans wouldn't be able to do. So I don't see why they couldn't warg or something similar.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:28 am to
quote:

Some of his scenes so far include Arya getting stabbed, the waif chase, and Selmy's death. Again, it's definitely not all on him, but I can't help but feel he deserves some blame.


Yeah, I have to say I'm disappointed by the director choices this year. Really wish they could have gotten back Bender, Sapochnik, and Marshall. Really just get all 3 of these and only the 3 of them to direct the final 6 episodes of the series.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:29 am to
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As a Septon he's with the many faced god,
No he isn't.
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