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re: Game of Thrones S7E1 "Dragonstone" Maester thread, no dummies allowed

Posted on 7/16/17 at 2:05 pm to
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 7/16/17 at 2:05 pm to
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One would think when Ramsey married Sansa, and became Lord of Winterfell she was aware that Sansa was in Winterfell.


One of the clumbsier things about last season was her reaction to Dorne legit murdering her daughter and she seemed not to really care but she got super pissed whenever the boltons had Sansa....and then stopped caring about that too.

I know they just wanted to end the Dorne storyline because it was awful, but it's so weird that she kind of ignores her daughters murder
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 7/16/17 at 2:52 pm to
Roose was worried about it.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 7/16/17 at 3:04 pm to
Hodor
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 7/16/17 at 3:05 pm to
He gone
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 7/16/17 at 3:11 pm to
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I agree that it's odd that jons apparent betrayal of the nights watch on multiple occcasions seems to not have affected his standing. Unless the implication is supposed to be that nobody really gives a shite about the nights watch anymore, you would think that it would be a bigger issue


This is the biggest plot hole in the series IMO. They set up for 5 seasons that the Night's Watch oath is still taken very seriously, especially by those in the North, and now suddenly nobody in the North gives a shite?

The idea that they know he was murdered and came back to life is even less mentally appealing because nobody would believe that.
Posted by ALLin4LSU
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Posted on 7/16/17 at 3:14 pm to
His death hit me the hardest I think.

If he reappears as a wight I don't know if I can take it.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 7/16/17 at 3:18 pm to
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This is the biggest plot hole in the series IMO. They set up for 5 seasons that the Night's Watch oath is still taken very seriously, especially by those in the North, and now suddenly nobody in the North gives a shite?


There's no leadership in the north since Ned left. And after suffering through the Boltons rein, they are pretty willing to look over his transgressions to get a stark back in charge
Posted by dallastiger55
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Posted on 7/16/17 at 3:23 pm to
Sorry if Germans but I just listened to a podcast and they interviewed one of the writers from season 7

He said the finale will be 85 minutes and at this time the are "leaning" towards making every episode of the final season between 80-90 minutes like a full feature film.


Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 7/16/17 at 3:25 pm to
shite in the 1st episode I think it was they showed Ned decapitating a "deserter" who we already knew was running for his life from the walkers. and everybody nodding saying it was a shame but Ned had to do what he had to do

for thousands of years the watch has been fighting wildlings not walkers, Jon deserts the watch for them, lets them behind the wall, then shows up to meetings with them by his side, and everyone's cool with that
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 7/16/17 at 3:28 pm to
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Jon deserts the watch for them
ugh he never deserted, his watch ended
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/16/17 at 3:28 pm to
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shite in the 1st episode I think it was they showed Ned decapitating a "deserter" who we already knew was running for his life from the walkers. and everybody nodding saying it was a shame but Ned had to do what he had to do


I still don't get why Will ran all the way down to Winterfell instead of just reporting what he saw to the Night's Watch.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 7/16/17 at 3:28 pm to
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for thousands of years the watch has been fighting wildlings not walkers, Jon deserts the watch for them, lets them behind the wall, then shows up to meetings with them by his side, and everyone's cool with that


He literally got murdered for doing that


Plus the Umbers whole reason for pairing with the Boltons was because of the wildings

And the houses only joined Jons cause after Sansa and Lady Mormont gave him rousing support and then Jon took down the family that betrayed the starks and tortured most northern houses.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/16/17 at 3:29 pm to
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ugh he never deserted, his watch ended


From his perspective, but why would the Northmen and Knights of the Vale believe this?
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 7/16/17 at 3:30 pm to
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I still don't get why Will ran all the way down to Winterfell instead of just reporting what he saw to the Night's Watch.


He was scared of the zombies that he just saw if he goes back to the watch then they'll send him back out on the side of the wall, as I assume he was a ranger.

Probably tried going south as far as south goes
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 7/16/17 at 3:40 pm to
Since they declared him King in the North, they were obviously don't care about the rules of the Night's Watch all that much.
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 7/16/17 at 3:41 pm to
doing a lot of rewatching lately, and need to say that Alfie Allen has done a tremendous job with Theon. Easily one of the best characters in the story.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 7/16/17 at 3:42 pm to
Nights watch is viewed as a joke these days.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 7/16/17 at 4:07 pm to
not to mention nobody's really told them he was reanimated anyway
for all they know he was unpunished
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 7/16/17 at 4:07 pm to
Does it come on at 8 or 9 central time? I can't remember
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 7/16/17 at 4:09 pm to
8 baw
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