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re: Game of Thrones S7 E6 "Beyond The Wall" MAESTERS THREAD NO SPOILERS

Posted on 8/21/17 at 6:23 pm to
Posted by ladyluckUGA
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 6:23 pm to
i think they've already told us how this is going to unfold in showing Bran quoting LF back to him ("chaos is a ladder") so he can relay/remind all the bad LF has done to Arya/Sansa and with that it's enough for them to decide to kill him.
This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 6:24 pm
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 6:33 pm to
Her handing that knife over for her to take, wonder if that meant more.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 6:43 pm to
Posted by MardiGrasRazorback
Shreveport, LA
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 6:47 pm to
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Lord of the Fries


Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 6:52 pm to
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Oh, you mean dragons coming down with 3 dozen Dothraki? I thought of that in Episode 2 when Tyrion said she couldn't afford light to the Red Keep on fire. I was just thinking there was no reason for that since the dragons could just land with people on their backs and not light the place on fire. Plus I don't see any real reason to safely assume the other 2 dragons would take Dothraki on their back without their mother. That theory was formed with nothing from Episode 6.
Ok, if you came up with that on your own, that's fine. I don't think anyone else has, and you didn't post that until after the leak.

But people are whining about predictions a dragon would die and be turned, and that's really a pretty easy guess to make. On the other hand, flying a squad around on the back of a dragon hasn't been approached at all, and it's that sort of specific detail that makes people say "hey".
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 6:52 pm to
I really would like to see more participation by Bran in this next episode.
Posted by iluvdatiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 7:11 pm to
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tl;dr it took about 5 days for word to get to Dany and for her to get back to them. Which is about how long it would take for the ice to freeze enough to support the army of wights. Regarding Gendry, The Raven, and the timing of it all, it makes sense. I'm going to assume since they were looking for a lone White that they were not going in a straight line from East watch, they were probably going back and forth in a zigzag (rip rickon) so Gendry running at full speed back to the wall, let's say that took about 4 hours. The trip from Castle black to Winterfell is about 600 miles (a little farther from East watch), a raven going full speed (28mph) could probably make that trip in a little over a day. From Winterfell to King's Landing is about A Thousand Miles according to Cersei in S5E6, so it would be about the same maybe a little more from Winterfell to Dragonstone. So let's say it takes the raven 4 days to get to Dragonstone. Dragons on the other hand, I couldn't find much info about how fast they can go. So for the sake of argument let's say they top out with a rider at about 175 mph. So that's about a 12-hour flight straight to Snow Team 6. So the overall time it takes Danny to get to Jon, is about 5 days. This makes sense considering that they had to wait for the ice to freeze over the lake again. Considering that the ice had to support a huge hoard of wights, the ice would have to be around 8 inches thick. Assuming an average temperature of 10 °F (they're not that far north) the ice would be growing at 1.5 inches per day. This works out to 7.5 inches of ice. Guys, the math works out.



This is ridiculous. It took Gendry probably an hour to run back to Eastwatch, probably about two hours for a raven to get to dragonstone, then about an hour for dany to get to the guys at the lake.
Posted by MardiGrasRazorback
Shreveport, LA
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 7:22 pm to
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OR they referenced her inability to get pregnant a few times already this season what if she does get pregnant and Jon sacrifices himself protecting her?

But it is pretty obvious one of them will not make it.


Jon will not die. He is literally the Song of Ice and Fire without Dany. While she is undoubtedly a crucial part of the central story, the story is Jon's.
Posted by iluvdatiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 7:26 pm to
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The thing that really made no sense was why the NK went after Viserius instead of Drogon. The only "legitimate" explanation I can think of is that the NK had a premonition of him with Viserius and not Drogon.


I think because one dragon was still actively killing all of his wights while the other was not.
Posted by DanglingFury
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 7:42 pm to
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think because one dragon was still actively killing all of his wights while the other was not.


It's because the Night King knows Drogon is better known to the audience.
Posted by DannyB
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Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:19 pm to
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That's true, but if anything, the long list of tragedies and time apart should have them more united than ever, not...this.



So Arya is just supposed to forgive and forget the fact that Sansa may as well have swing the sword that decapitated their father by being a stupid, starry eyes count.
Posted by iluvdatiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2004
42829 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:35 pm to
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OR they referenced her inability to get pregnant a few times already this season what if she does get pregnant and Jon sacrifices himself protecting her? But it is pretty obvious one of them will not make it.


In my perfect fanfic world, what should have happened last night was Dany came into his room and helped him undress and tended to his injuries then they start to kiss and it all goes down. They profess their love for each other and he takes her to Winterfell and proposes to her. They get married under the weirwood tree, have one night together as husband and wife before everyone finds out the wall has come down and the walkers are almost at Winterfell. Everyone starts fighting, but it's an epic battle and pretty much everybody dies at Winterfell. Jon and Dany and the few survivors flee to Kingslanding for help. Dany discovers she is pregnant at this time. The final battle comes just as Dany goes into labor, Jon rushes to be by her side and she dies the same way Jon's mother dies collectively breaking my heart and every other fan girl who has been shipping them for 7 years.


then I break my tv and never watch HBO again.
This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 8:37 pm
Posted by Retrograde
TX
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:53 pm to
The path for Queen Cersei and King Littlefinger at the end of the show is still possible. I have hope.
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:00 pm to
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So Arya is just supposed to forgive and forget the fact that Sansa may as well have swing the sword that decapitated their father by being a stupid, starry eyes count.


Sansa didn't do anything. Ned was a dead man no matter what. If she didn't write the letter she would have been accused of treason and been dead too.
Posted by iluvdatiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2004
42829 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:17 pm to
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The path for Queen Cersei and King Littlefinger at the end of the show is still possible. I have hope.


`I will be writing a strongly worded letter to D&D if that happens.
Posted by Esquire
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Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:28 pm to
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In my perfect fanfic world, what should have happened last night was Dany came into his room and helped him undress and tended to his injuries then they start to kiss and it all goes down. They profess their love for each other and he takes her to Winterfell and proposes to her. They get married under the weirwood tree, have one night together as husband and wife before everyone finds out the wall has come down and the walkers are almost at Winterfell. Everyone starts fighting, but it's an epic battle and pretty much everybody dies at Winterfell. Jon and Dany and the few survivors flee to Kingslanding for help. Dany discovers she is pregnant at this time. The final battle comes just as Dany goes into labor, Jon rushes to be by her side and she dies the same way Jon's mother dies collectively breaking my heart and every other fan girl who has been shipping them for 7 years.


This, but with Tormund and Brienne.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
40072 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:34 pm to
Has anyone seen the theory about Jon's sword Longclaw opening it's eyes when he gets out of the water? Looks like it was just the way the camera was filming but I was curious if anyone else had some different views on it.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:47 pm to
I'm going to say since they possibly spent the night, 8-12 hours.


Reminded me of tremors
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:47 pm to
ahhhhh, a polar bear

Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:55 pm to
Ned died because he was stupid.
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