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re: Game of Thrones S6:E6:"Blood of My Blood", HODORS ONLY(No Book Readers)

Posted on 5/29/16 at 11:56 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 11:56 pm to
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What am I missing? What was the point of that speech? If they didn't kill her after roasting their leaders, then they were already behind her.

The already bowed to her. Seems like they didn't have an exciting moment to wrap the episode so they tossed that in.

Liked the episode just felt that last bit was pointless.

zactly
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 11:59 pm to
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I agree Sam derped hard there.

would sam have made that move had she not kissed him?

perhaps gilly made the mistake
Posted by KarlMalonesFlipPhone
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 11:59 pm to
Let's do a recap of the episode:

Sam's dad is pissed he's banging a wildling? - No way! Glad I didn't watch last week's preview.

Arya can't turn her back on her past self and family? - blindsided!

Khaleesi has a dragon - you serious bro?

Tommen joins the high sparrow - wait he became a bigger pussy than before?!?!

Holy shite, Benjen is alive - I'm glad that advanced the bran story line!



Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 12:01 am to
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This crap with the high sparrow is SO frickING STUPID. You have Jamie who has killed a king and various children, but he's afraid to even confront homeless Bernie Sanders because...?

did you see the crowd?

did you see how much it out-numbered the army?

do you really think they want to cause a civil war in KL?
Posted by KarlMalonesFlipPhone
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 12:03 am to
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did you see the crowd?

did you see how much it out-numbered the army?


The crowd was literally there to throw onions and see titties. You think they care frick all about fighting an army?
This post was edited on 5/30/16 at 12:04 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 12:08 am to
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You think they care frick all about fighting an army?

if it is an army fighting their religious leader in defiance of their religion? yes

you think that mob likes the higher born? after all the scenes they've shown over the series?
Posted by Sho Nuff
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 12:14 am to
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This crap with the high sparrow is SO frickING STUPID. You have Jamie who has killed a king and various children, but he's afraid to even confront homeless Bernie Sanders because...? The Tyrells march an army into the city, with armor and big arse spears, but they won't face off against a couple dozen guys with robes and clubs. Lady Tyrell saying "He beat us." Are you fricking kidding me? Throw a spear through Bernie's heart and end this dumb bullshite. It's so frustrating! Margaery is cooking something up apparently. How about you push the sparrow's geriatric arse down the stairs? And Cersei's little speech about what the Lannisters do to their enemies. Why do they keep beating around the bush? Trial by combat? Totally unnecessary if they just stop acting like quivering pussies around the sparrow. It doesn't jive with anything we've been shown about this family throughout the entire series. And then we wrap it up with Dany and Drogon's little surprise party to rally the troops. Everything about the episode was retarded. I felt somewhat bad for Sam because he's a fat loser and his dad hates him, but there was never ANY reason for him to take Gilly to meet his family in the first place. I love the show and look forward to it every week but everything about this episode pissed me off.

All of this plus how much of a pussy is Tommen. This ep was shite and the previews for next week didn't seem to hype much either. When the season is 10 episodes it really sucks to throw away an ep. I hope next weeks isn't another.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 12:14 am to
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did you see the crowd?


I saw a crowd of unarmed peasants, yes.

That's completely beside the point though. This sparrow shite has gone on way too long, and he's been able to gain an inordinate amount of power when someone could have easily killed him a long time ago. It's bad writing and it doesn't go along with anything that's been presented about the nature of the Lannisters. The sparrow is old as shite, someone could just smother him in his sleep and say he died of natural causes if they're afraid of an uprising.

The fact that he's been able to gain so much power is absurd, even in a fantasy show.
Posted by Sho Nuff
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 12:15 am to
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if it is an army fighting their religious leader in defiance of their religion? yes you think that mob likes the higher born? after all the scenes they've shown over the series?

That mob of filth wouldn't have done shite and if they tried they would've been cut down with the quickness.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 12:22 am to
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That mob of filth wouldn't have done shite and if they tried they would've been cut down with the quickness.

unlikely due to sheer numbers

and what would happen if somehow that selection of soldiers did cut them down?

you think the city would just go "oh these people we loathe are breaking the rules we live by, attacking our religion, and just being assholes that act like the rules don't apply to them. then if we stand up for our faith, they kill us? we'll just sit back and take it" ?

the whole point of the KL drama is that the nobility who is used to pulling the strings has lost that power

the inner drama is that the nobility who spawned the current royal family are losing powers over their progeny. do they rise up against their own blood and their families' futures? there isn't another baratheon heir or tyrell daughter to replace them. that's the personal conflict in the larger political conflict
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 12:26 am to
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The sparrow is old as shite, someone could just smother him in his sleep and say he died of natural causes if they're afraid of an uprising.

it's very likely that if he was cut down, marg, tommen, lloris, etc are still under their thumb

and i don't think it's that easy to access the HS, regardless

they'd have to infiltrate the faith militant over time to get a mole close to him. time is a bit wonky in how they present the show but it's probably been a month or 2 since the 3 high lords were taken into custody
Posted by Sho Nuff
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 12:30 am to
I don't know, I'm banking on Margery playing the long game and pussy Tommen is now in on it. If not, the writing has gotten lazy and it's not making sense. Tommen is a pussy but he wouldn't go against his mother. This whole Sparrow crap is ridiculous. He's the king and he leaves his mom and wife in there and let's his mom walk naked and was about to let his wife? This High Sparrow crap is ruining the show for me.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 12:34 am to
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Tommen is a pussy but he wouldn't go against his mother.

i think that is very likely. he's not her first son-king who did so

cersei clearly is not the master manipulator that she thinks she is. tommen and goff are just 2 polar examples

quote:

This whole Sparrow crap is ridiculous. He's the king and he leaves his mom and wife in there and let's his mom walk naked and was about to let his wife?

you don't think the horror and shame of that influenced his decision with margery?

before the HS got this power, he was already allowing her to influence him over cersei

why would that be different now that he's given the chance to (1) get her back (2) without being shamed and (3) in the light of a new religion that he's found?

remember tywinn's speach to him about what makes a good king. he has no real person to give him advice and no strongman like Tywinn and he's making the "wrong" decisions
Posted by Antpile Tea Bagger
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 12:46 am to
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everything about this episode pissed me off.


I call bs

No way you were pissed when they showed cold hands benjan stark
Or when they showed the mad King.
Posted by Sho Nuff
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 12:48 am to
Before this HS crap, Tommen was completely wrapped around Cersei and then Margery's fingers. To think he would just leave them in is ridiculous. Like I said, I'm hoping Margery figured out what she needed to do and she's not a religious freak now, but playing the long game. But this whole plot has sucked the wind out of the show when it comes on imo.

I get your point after the fact but I'm talking before it. Now, he's back to doing whatever Margery wants but he let her sit in jail for that long? Cersei was the person to give advice and again, he let her go through all that? It doesn't make sense in the story we've been watching.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 1:02 am to
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What am I missing? What was the point of that speech?
To get their asses in them boats, right? They don't like boats.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 1:08 am to
Kings landing is very boring. There seems to be nothing at stake, and the king of westeros seems only as strong as the family from which he came. I could care less about cersei, or margeary. A small insignificant plot within the context of the wight walker army and across the narrow sea.

I feel like they don't really express the strength of the being on the iron throne enough. It's like kings landing is as much it's own little world as anywhere else is, but it's the most coveted throne in the world? They need to show how much the king of westeros really effects the realm in the physical or through words. Those across the narrow sea seem 100% detached from whoever sits on the iron throne.
This post was edited on 5/30/16 at 1:10 am
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 1:10 am to
Outside of Uncle Benjen showing back up and a short glimpse of some of Bran's visions pretty boring episode. Another generic Dany speech and Tommen fricking everything up by thinking with his dick again.

Oh well not every episode can be great. Looks like Arya may finally be heading back to Westeros which would be nice.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 1:21 am to
I think this was the point of the Dany scene:

In the visions from bran you saw a lot of the mad king (targaryen), and I'm thinking the targaryen family with their dragons and valyrian steel were key in defeating the wight walkers before, and they follow up those visions with Sam taking a valyrian steel sword, and Dany showing obvious control of her dragons, thus heightening the wight walker war stakes.
Posted by Sho Nuff
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 1:22 am to
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I feel like they don't really express the strength of the being on the iron throne enough. It's like kings landing is as much it's own little world as anywhere else is, but it's the most coveted throne in the world? They need to show how much the king of westeros really effects the realm in the physical or through words. Those across the narrow sea seem 100% detached from whoever sits on the iron throne.

Agreed. I mean shite, they wouldn't have booed at the play when Goffrey was getting poisoned if they knew what a turd he was
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