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re: Game of Thrones S6:E4:"Book of the Stranger", HODORS ONLY(No Book Readers)

Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:17 am to
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:17 am to
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The Tyrell army won't be standing down. Jaime wants his uncle to stand down the city watch and let the Tyrell army temporarily take control of the city so they can dispatch the Sparrows. Then the king can't be blamed for slaughtering the Sparrows afterwards and rile up the peasants.


Missed that bit while discussing the High Sparrow with the wife (she doesn't have the patience to wait until the end of the episode )
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:21 am to
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That he planned to make Margary make the Walk of Shame

Did we actually see him tell Tommen this? I can't remember. Here's my two theories on this:

1. The High Sparrow told Tommen the above and made him swear not to tell, knowing that he would spill the beans anyway. Now the Lannisters and Tyrells will react with violence, just what the Sparrow wants, as you mentioned, leading to a revolt.

2. Cersei completely made up what Tommen told her to get the Tyrells to do something about it, which will probably end up poorly for them.

Either way someone is getting played.
Posted by Large Farva
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:24 am to
So, I have a question. Bran and WW King touch each other at the same time, and what happens? Bran turns into WW or WW King is controlled by Bran.


My thoughts. Bran takes over WW, Kahleesi has Dothraki and Unsullied, Jon has wildlings. All four armies kill Ramsay
This post was edited on 5/16/16 at 9:26 am
Posted by KarlMalonesFlipPhone
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:27 am to
I don't see any way Margery makes it out alive and I'm sure Cersei is just fine with that.
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:39 am to
I dont think he is really that worried about hiding it.
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:41 am to
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Bran takes over WW, Kahleesi has Dothraki and Unsullied, Jon has wildlings. All four armies kill Ramsay


Dude Ramsey has like 5000 men. All it will take is LF army with Jon and the wildings.

With the group you just threw out there, they could take on every single army in the GOT world.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:41 am to
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Of course she was CGI'd in the flames. You expect them to place her in a burning building to get the shot?


No shite.

I'm talking about her actual body. It almost looked fake.

I'm not fricking retarded.

This is basically what I was getting at:
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It was her but with a CGI backing for the flames.. I think they CGI'd her a little to try and blend the real shot with the flames and it made her look a little too fake.
This post was edited on 5/16/16 at 9:43 am
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:42 am to
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I don't see any way Margery makes it out alive and I'm sure Cersei is just fine with that.

No doubt, I've just got this feeling that Cersei is being played and doesn't know it
Posted by TygerTyger
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:49 am to
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So is the Cersi+Ned=Jon Snow impossible?




All I can do is shake my head at you Hodors sometimes....
Posted by LordSaintly
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:56 am to
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Body double

No it wasn't. She did an interview with EW and said they didn't use a body double for any of it.


I stand corrected.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:58 am to
me too. i was sure it was a CGI body while watching last night
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:59 am to
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Dude Ramsey has like 5000 men. All it will take is LF army with Jon and the wildings.



I have a feeling it's going to be slightly more complicated than that. Something tells me the Bolton Army will number well above 5,000 men before all is said and done. Plus there's no guarantee Littlefinger will cooperate when he learns that a potential male heir to Winterfell is still alive, free from his oath to the Night's Watch, and of age.
This post was edited on 5/16/16 at 10:02 am
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 10:03 am to
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So is the Cersi+Ned=Jon Snow impossible?



All I can do is shake my head at you Hodors sometimes....



so what are the order of events:

1. was kat to marry ned's bro?
2. was ned's bro killed by the mad king when he went to protest the kidnapping?
3. did Robert and Ned fight to get his sister?

when did kat/ned happen...and how long were they together when the war started..if the other theory of Snow is true(couldn't be long)?

Seems kind of pointless to have that black baby hair story if it didn't have a deeper implication.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 10:06 am to
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Seems kind of pointless to have that black baby hair story if it didn't have a deeper implication.


To be honest, it appears to be reinforcement that Baratheons sire black-haired children, exclusively, even with Lannisters. I can't see any deeper implication than that. Certainly couldn't have been a contemporary to Robb, Jon, Dany, though, because of the timing - recall that Robert and Cersei's wedding and first child would have been well after Robert's Rebellion.
This post was edited on 5/16/16 at 10:07 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 10:07 am to
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when did kat/ned happen

on their way south he married kat, knocked her up, and john arryn married lysa tully

this was to secure the stark/tully/arryn alliance

ned and robert were wards of john arryn when shite hit the fan and the mad king told him to send both to KL

essentially they all said "frick that", married for allies, and headed south
This post was edited on 5/16/16 at 10:07 am
Posted by Large Farva
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 10:07 am to
Dude, I'd love to see that fight because of how much I hate Ramsey.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 10:08 am to
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when did kat/ned happen


As soon as Robert's Rebellion started. Catelyn and Ned were married to bring House Tully into the war on the side of the Starks and the Baratheons.

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Seems kind of pointless to have that black baby hair story if it didn't have a deeper implication.



Cersei didn't have the black-haired baby until after her and Robert were wed. That didn't happen until after the rebellion had ended. By that time Ned had been married to Catelyn for several years.
This post was edited on 5/16/16 at 10:09 am
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 10:09 am to
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I have a feeling it's going to be slightly more complicated than that. Something tells me the Bolton Army will number well above 5,000 men before all is said and done. Plus there's no guarantee Littlefinger will cooperate when he learns that a potential male heir to Winterfell is still alive, free from his oath to the Night's Watch, and of age.


If Stansa and Jon start trying to consolidate power, will the North "remember" or will they stick with the Boltons? And what happens to Rickon? Ramsay damned well cannot claim lordship of Winterfell with a Stark sitting there in it and Sansa is the eldest surviving "Stark" (Jon being a bastard disqualifies him unless somehow he is legitimized, but I think only Ned could have done that). So with that, the true Lord of Winterfell is whomever is married to Sansa (and she can always try to claim her marriage to Ramsay as illegitimate).
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 10:09 am to
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recall that Robert and Cersei's wedding and first child would have been well after Robert's Rebellion.


The king was killed after Ned's sister died?

I thought they might have found her first, then married(to get lannister support/money)...then went after the king to kill all Targareans.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 10:10 am to
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The king was killed after Ned's sister died?

no

but robert wasn't married to cersei until after everything was settled, iirc

ned went on his own to get his sister b/c he was pissed that Robert and John were OK with what Jaime did

*ETA: he also stopped the siege at dragon stone before he went south, iirc
This post was edited on 5/16/16 at 10:12 am
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