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re: Game of Thrones S6:E4:"Book of the Stranger", HODORS ONLY(No Book Readers)
Posted on 5/16/16 at 7:19 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 5/16/16 at 7:19 am to RollTide1987
So is the Cersi+Ned=Jon Snow impossible?
Ned's brother was to marry Kat
Robert was to marry Ned's sister
Was Ned to marry Cersi?
Then when all the shite went down, Ned had to marry Kat(brother died), Robert had to marry Cersi(for Lannister support).
In the second episode of season 1
Was this Ned and Cersi's child that Ned took to give Robert a true heir. Ned and Cersi were together and only after he found his sister dead did he know that Cersi had to go with Robert instead?
ETA: In episode 1, Ned tells Jon to stay away from the ceremonies. We don't know what the reason is, we assume it's because he's a bastard....but what if it's because he doesn't want Cersi to see him?
ETA2: Cersi was especially mean to Kat, why? (talking about Sansa)"Such a beauty shouldn't be kept way up here in the North"(implying Kat is ugly) when she wanted Sansa and Joffery to marry, she wanted to be paired with the Starks. Why does she have a grudge against Kat?
Ned's brother was to marry Kat
Robert was to marry Ned's sister
Was Ned to marry Cersi?
Then when all the shite went down, Ned had to marry Kat(brother died), Robert had to marry Cersi(for Lannister support).
In the second episode of season 1
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Cersei: "I lost my first boy, a little black-haired beauty.
He was a fighter too-- tried to beat the fever that took him. … Robert was crazed, beat his hands bloody on the wall, all the things men do to show you how much they care. The boy looked just like him. Such a little thing. A bird without feathers. They came to take his body away and Robert held me. I screamed and I battled, but he held me. That little bundle. They took him away and I never saw him again."
Was this Ned and Cersi's child that Ned took to give Robert a true heir. Ned and Cersi were together and only after he found his sister dead did he know that Cersi had to go with Robert instead?
ETA: In episode 1, Ned tells Jon to stay away from the ceremonies. We don't know what the reason is, we assume it's because he's a bastard....but what if it's because he doesn't want Cersi to see him?
ETA2: Cersi was especially mean to Kat, why? (talking about Sansa)"Such a beauty shouldn't be kept way up here in the North"(implying Kat is ugly) when she wanted Sansa and Joffery to marry, she wanted to be paired with the Starks. Why does she have a grudge against Kat?
This post was edited on 5/16/16 at 8:17 am
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 7:37 am to Antpile Tea Bagger
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Please refresh me
What exactly did sparrow tell tommen? What will he blab to cersei
That he planned to make Margary make the Walk of Shame
The more I read on here the more I think the conspiracy theory is correct in that the High Sparrow is purposely trying to draw the throne into a war so he can lead the peasant class in a revolt.
Why Jaime wants the Tyrell's to come into the city then stand down though... maybe as a show of force? He has a plan of some sort, no idea what though.
I just wish they would send Ser Robert Strong over to wreck everything. I would enjoy watching a whole episode of just that.
The Dani story is finally starting to pick up steam (thank the gods, both old and new). I've always wondered if she would just forget about the Dothraki and try to move on Westeros with the Unsullied once she got her cities tamed. Now I know the answer (ie: guess whose going to tame those cities... ;) ).
LF is getting the Vale ready for war, but with whom? My guess is he'll throw in with Rob & Sansa (since Robyn would probably fall on the ground and shite himself in the fetal position otherwise) then try to get Sansa and Robyn married. With his hold over Robyn and being the Lord of Harrenhall, he would damned near be the defacto Warden of the North (unless whoever takes the title from Ramsay is a solid leader).
From there though... what? Another war of kings or does Jon Snow rally the North for a defense against the White Walkers?
Loved the reuniting scene of Sansa and Jon! I was struck then by how much that character has grown since the two last saw each other.
As a final thought... I fricking LOVED the interaction between Davos Mellisandre and Brienne. Brienne had them shitting themselves because while the North seems to have forgotten, Brienne remembers.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 7:39 am to Scoop
quote:Not really, sure she was married to Khal Drogo who was great in their culture. But now she killed all the other Khal's and the entire people group bowed down to her as their leader, not Drogo or some other Khal. If you can't see the difference in that I am not sure what you are watching.
She was queen of the Dothraki 5 years ago. We just took a 5 year lap to get her to the same place.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 7:50 am to 225rumpshaker
Pretty fiya episode last night, pun intended.
As much as it's fairly stupid that Dany's storyline is now repeating itself, at least now she seems to have all of the Dothraki behind her and maybe she will actually make some moves and be interesting again.
Glad Jon and Sansa met up...nice to see something decent happen to a Stark for a change. I'm now hoping that we get a Jon/Ramsay payoff. Although based on this show's history, I doubt we will see that.
I'm interested to see where all this Faith Militant/High Sparrow shite goes...I hope it gets there fast though. I'm getting tired of that old dude and his ramblings. I didn't fully understand what Jaime was saying though...he wants to bring in the Tyrell army, and have Kevan Lannister stand down with the Lannister/King's Landing army, correct? So basically they would let the Tyrell army into the gates to handle the FM/HS and the home team won't interfere. That's what I took from that. Is that correct?
As much as it's fairly stupid that Dany's storyline is now repeating itself, at least now she seems to have all of the Dothraki behind her and maybe she will actually make some moves and be interesting again.
Glad Jon and Sansa met up...nice to see something decent happen to a Stark for a change. I'm now hoping that we get a Jon/Ramsay payoff. Although based on this show's history, I doubt we will see that.
I'm interested to see where all this Faith Militant/High Sparrow shite goes...I hope it gets there fast though. I'm getting tired of that old dude and his ramblings. I didn't fully understand what Jaime was saying though...he wants to bring in the Tyrell army, and have Kevan Lannister stand down with the Lannister/King's Landing army, correct? So basically they would let the Tyrell army into the gates to handle the FM/HS and the home team won't interfere. That's what I took from that. Is that correct?
Posted on 5/16/16 at 7:53 am to CocomoLSU
I threw my fist in the air when Sansa entered the gates and knew she and Jon would finally meet! 
Posted on 5/16/16 at 7:54 am to Uncle Stu
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that High Sparrow has got to be the most evil son of a bitch ever on the show, he is downright vile
that soliloquy he gave while Margery was on the floor was captivating, that actor deserves an Emmy for that performance
I usually zone out during monologues, but that one captured me.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 8:09 am to Uncle Stu
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that actor deserves an Emmy for that performance
Jonathan Pryce is almost certainly the finest actor on the show right now, particularly since the departure of Charles Dance.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 8:23 am to Ace Midnight
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Jonathan Pryce is almost certainly the finest actor on the show right now, particularly since the departure of Charles Dance.
Diana Rigg (Queen of Thorns) is up there as well
Posted on 5/16/16 at 8:29 am to GeauxMatt624
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Diana Rigg (Queen of Thorns) is up there as well
I agree she's probably second, right now, and was one of the few to hold her own in scenes with Dance. Dinklage deserves some props here, as well, as he shared a lot of scenes with Dance. Rigg and Pryce's scene from last year was a highlight of acting for the show's entire run.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 8:29 am to GeauxMatt624
I know he's arrogant, but I'm not sure why Ramsey would send that letter. Wasn't he talking about leading his army TO Castle Black to take it. Did he even send it? Perhaps it was Littlefinger trying to align with Jon via a common enemy?
Posted on 5/16/16 at 8:31 am to Bard
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Why Jaime wants the Tyrell's to come into the city then stand down though... maybe as a show of force? He has a plan of some sort, no idea what though.
The Tyrell army won't be standing down. Jaime wants his uncle to stand down the city watch and let the Tyrell army temporarily take control of the city so they can dispatch the Sparrows. Then the king can't be blamed for slaughtering the Sparrows afterwards and rile up the peasants.
This post was edited on 5/16/16 at 8:32 am
Posted on 5/16/16 at 8:32 am to LordSaintly
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Body double
No it wasn't. She did an interview with EW and said they didn't use a body double for any of it.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 8:34 am to GIbson05
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No it wasn't. She did an interview with EW and said they didn't use a body double for any of it.
Something definitely looked off about it. Almost looked CGI'd or something like that.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 8:37 am to CocomoLSU
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Almost looked CGI'd or something like that.
Of course she was CGI'd in the flames. You expect them to place her in a burning building to get the shot?
Posted on 5/16/16 at 8:37 am to CocomoLSU
perhaps the CGI'd fire behind her?
Posted on 5/16/16 at 8:43 am to CocomoLSU
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Something definitely looked off about it. Almost looked CGI'd or something like that.
It was her but with a CGI backing for the flames.. I think they CGI'd her a little to try and blend the real shot with the flames and it made her look a little too fake.
I haven't been impressed with the CGI in the show. Like when she rode the Dragon, that was horrible special effects..
Posted on 5/16/16 at 8:44 am to CocomoLSU
In the previews for ep 6 it shows LF talking with Brienne and Sanse and it looks like they are still at Castle Black. I'm betting LF sailed up there and is trying to get Sansa back. However, he probably didn't know about Sansa having some traveling companions with Jon/Brienne/Pod/Mel/Davos. LF may be forced to link up with that crew and take down Ramsey.
However, if that's the case, then I don't see how Sansa and Jon would let LF take WF and be Wardon of the North like he wanted.
However, if that's the case, then I don't see how Sansa and Jon would let LF take WF and be Wardon of the North like he wanted.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:09 am to NS Who Dat Nation
LF explicitly stated he knew Jon had the wildling army and that Sansa was going to castle black. He is taking the his army up there to help Jon take WF. Reasonings behind that dont really matter at this point. Him going to the wall next episode is the beginning of them linking up to fight Ramsey.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:12 am to More beer please
quote:The logistics of getting an entire army up there without Ramsey knowing would be nearly impossible... unless the other northern lords are in on it...
LF explicitly stated he knew Jon had the wildling army and that Sansa was going to castle black. He is taking the his army up there to help Jon take WF
Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:14 am to KingSlayer
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The Tyrell army won't be standing down. Jaime wants his uncle to stand down the city watch and let the Tyrell army temporarily take control of the city so they can dispatch the Sparrows. Then the king can't be blamed for slaughtering the Sparrows afterwards and rile up the peasants.
didnt take much convincing to get olenna to agree to that, did it? obviously she wants her granddaughter back, but this could be her power play. she's got the lannisters by the short hairs i think, and has been playing the long game
the lannisters are in a very vulnerable spot
just sayin
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