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re: Game of Thrones S6:E1:"The Red Woman", HODORS ONLY(No Book Readers)

Posted on 4/25/16 at 10:07 am to
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 10:07 am to
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what if Dany never makes it across the Narrow Sea?


The melt would be worse than How I Met Your Mother, when he ended up with Robin, arghh.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 10:23 am to
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Could the red woman be sacrificing herself for Jon, which is why we see her true self for the first time?



She saw Stannis winning in the flames. Stannis died (my wife thinks otherwise since we don't see Breanne actually kill him, which is odd for GOT).

She saw Jon Snow triumphant at Winterfell and now Jon Snow is dead.

Her removal of her necklace and reverting to her true age/self is symbolic of her failing belief in the Lord of Light.
Posted by musick
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 10:26 am to
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Stannis died (my wife thinks otherwise since we don't see Breanne actually kill him, which is odd for GOT).



I thought otherwise all off-season as well until they showed it in the 5 minute recap before the episode. Brianne says her words, raises her sword, and you hear the strike and it sounds explicit. Why didn't they show it? Maybe they have a violence quota or something. Either way it's pretty obvious she chopped his head off, even by just hearing it.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 10:29 am to
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Basically nothing happened
I don't know why people keep saying this.

A few pages back, someone recapped everything that happened, it was certainly a heck of a lot more than "nothing"
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 10:40 am to
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I thought otherwise all off-season as well until they showed it in the 5 minute recap before the episode. Brianne says her words, raises her sword, and you hear the strike and it sounds explicit. Why didn't they show it? Maybe they have a violence quota or something. Either way it's pretty obvious she chopped his head off, even by just hearing it.


I agree, but she has a point with that being the only 1st person view of a killing in the entire run of the show and they just don't do things like that for shits and giggles.

I hope he's dead though, otherwise I'll never hear the end of it
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 10:41 am to
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I dont really get that situation. I kind of understand it, but if I'm Tommen and those psychos have taken my mother and hot arse wife, Im burning down everything in my way until I get them back.
Yea, I still don't get that part either.

I get that he may be timid, but he has a council, no?

If he's not that sure of himself as king and rules, I'm sure they'd easily talk him into wrecking shite on that religous group, not sure what I'm missing in that storyline.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 10:42 am to
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There's just too much going on and everyone just keep changing places instead of going forward. It's hard to advance the plot when there are like 10 plots going on at the same time.
I've been saying that for probably 3+ seasons now. But at some point, I just accepted that the storylines would play out very slow since there are so many to show, so I'm ok with it now.
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 10:51 am to
Little Fingef is Warden of the North
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 10:52 am to
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basically why i stopped reading after book 1. i'm too worried about wasting so much time with fricking danny
At first, i loved it.

I had visions of her marching into KL, and an all out crazy war going off. Seemed pretty cool.

But as time went on, she's basically just wandering around the dessert, and in the grand scheme, not much is happening with her on that original premise. Throw in the fleet of ships on fire, and now what?
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 10:54 am to
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The melt would be worse than How I Met Your Mother, when he ended up with Robin, arghh.
That final season was the worst final season I've ever seen for a series I liked. I was on board, caught it almost right at the very 1st episode in S1, loved the show. Of course it loses a little luster when it becomes wildly popular, but I still liked the show especially since they realized they should focus on Ted less.

But, make a long story short, I watched that show basically from S1E1 and literally quit on the entire series with about 4 episodes left in the final season, it was just that bad, and I simply didn't care any more.
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 10:54 am to
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I dont really get that situation. I kind of understand it, but if I'm Tommen and those psychos have taken my mother and hot arse wife, Im burning down everything in my way until I get them back.


Yea, I still don't get that part either.

I get that he may be timid, but he has a council, no?

If he's not that sure of himself as king and rules, I'm sure they'd easily talk him into wrecking shite on that religous group, not sure what I'm missing in that storyline.


Tommen is very young, very naive and very timid. Most likely any moves he makes now will be countered by Cersei (since it's in her best interest to keep Margary imprisoned). Because of his lack of aggressiveness the Small Council would be more likely to bend to her will than his.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 11:01 am to
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S1E1 and literally quit on the entire series with about 4 episodes left in the final season, it was just that bad, and I simply didn't care any more.


well you were smarter than me. Damn all that to meet the mom and poof kill her off. Spend years showing why two people should never be together, and then put them together. The end.

Should have called it, How I tried to bone your stepmother for years
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 11:02 am to
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Tommen is very young, very naive and very timid. Most likely any moves he makes now will be countered by Cersei (since it's in her best interest to keep Margary imprisoned). Because of his lack of aggressiveness the Small Council would be more likely to bend to her will than his.
yea, that does make sense.

For Tommen, I feel like sex with Margery alone should be more than enough to make him man up and handle business.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 11:04 am to
Is the red titty witch human? I stated in the middle ground thread she sort of resembles that old frick Bran met in the tree.
Posted by brmark70816
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 11:05 am to
I thought the reasons Tommen didn't attack were cause the people backed the Sparrows (all out revolt) and Margery would be killed before she could be rescued. So he kind of had no choice but to try to negotiate. It was the only way they could make the Sparrows powerful enough to make them matter..
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 11:12 am to
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Tommen is very young, very naive and very timid.


Doesnt matter. This is 14-16 boy who just discovered pussy for the first time and has an army at his disposal.

Posted by Spilled Milk
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 11:15 am to
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She saw Stannis winning in the flames. Stannis died (my wife thinks otherwise since we don't see Breanne actually kill him, which is odd for GOT).

Have we every seen a true, rightful king die on camera?
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 11:16 am to
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I've been saying that for probably 3+ seasons now. But at some point, I just accepted that the storylines would play out very slow since there are so many to show, so I'm ok with it now.




I guess I'm kinda the opposite. I thought it was ok for the first few seasons because I figured the payoff had to be coming sometime relative soon but I'm getting to the come on already point with some of them. It only started to get on my nerves about halfway through last season.
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Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 11:22 am to
i personally don't care about a final payoff as long as the intrigue continues, which has been lacking

season 5 and that episode just feel like completely different series. it's like the POV has zoomed onto characters instead of the larger conflict (which you and i both agree with, per earlier discussions), while kind of shading the LARGE conflict (walkers)
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 11:32 am to
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season 5 and that episode just feel like completely different series. it's like the POV has zoomed onto characters instead of the larger conflict (which you and i both agree with, per earlier discussions), while kind of shading the LARGE conflict (walkers)



this...all of this.
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