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re: Game of Thrones S5:E9:"The Dance of Dragons", BOOK READERS

Posted on 6/7/15 at 9:14 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 9:14 pm to
Well, Stannis has now upped a very high bar in being the worst father in history. He's beat a bunch of classy gents like Craster, Randyll, and Tywin. Tywin having his son's wife forcibly gang rapped and Craster raping his daughters aren't as bad as this. Who the frick would ever follow Stannis after this? I think that even under death in that day and age, I couldn't follow a guy who burns his own daughter alive over a superstition.

Really hope Davos just stays at the Wall and mentors Jon after all this. This may be the ultimate case of Moral Event Horizon. Stannis can't simply be killed, he has to definitively go to hell for this. Won't look at the character in the same way again after this, and Davos and Jon sure as hell better never go back to him.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 9:14 pm to
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You're certain he never will? Don't be.

I think he'll do it to Theon before his daughter.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116180 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 9:14 pm to
Well then in a world where shadow babies kill your baby brother, killing your only child as a religious sacrifice isn't murder
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 9:15 pm to
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The show officially jumped the shark tonight. Killing just for the sake of killing. D&D are fricking terrible



GRRM signed off on all this, hoss. Let's not act like he's just some innocent bystander who is letting his story be written a way he doesn't want it written.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
77144 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 9:16 pm to
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Tywin

Not that bad of a father.
Posted by Tackle74
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 9:16 pm to
Understand and dropping out of convo
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 9:16 pm to
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I think he'll do it to Theon before his daughter.



I think there's a reason for Shireen's character, and I'm not sure people mad at D&D are going to like it.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116180 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 9:16 pm to
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You didn't answer my very simple question. Sorry for the personal issues. No need to hash them out here.


I didn't mean it to come out like that, just that their two sides to the "do you have kids argument" as well. It's a matter of experience/perception. It's why I didn't want to get into a drag out argument over two horrible things. One just happened to effect me far worst than another

I'm just honestly trying to underail the thread now, because there are so many better things to talk about
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 9:17 pm to
What? GRRM has said many times that the show writers do what they want with the show. He hasn't been active for the show since the Purple Wedding
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 9:17 pm to
Oh, and to top this off, I'm staying with my parents tonight, and my mom walks in the second they put her at the stake. She says "I want to see what this show's about. My friends all talk about it." I tell her to get out immediately, and then she starts freaking out realizing what the situation is thinking I'm a depraved sadist over this. She then proceeds to go chew my dad out for recommending that she watches it with him (he waits for the DVDs).
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 9:18 pm to
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killing your only child as a religious sacrifice isn't murder


You need to just walk away and stop posting tonight.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
21050 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 9:18 pm to
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What? GRRM has said many times that the show writers do what they want with the show. He hasn't been active for the show since the Purple Wedding



D & D went through all of the character's story lines with him. I hate to break it to you, but at some point, we're probably supposed to hate ' the Mannis.'
This post was edited on 6/7/15 at 9:19 pm
Posted by Superior Pariah
Member since Jun 2009
8457 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 9:19 pm to
I can't wait for the "Happy Father's Day" memes with Shireen and Stannis that are sure to come out.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
9980 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 9:19 pm to
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GRRM signed off on all this, hoss. Let's not act like he's just some innocent bystander who is letting his story be written a way he doesn't want it written.


Signed off on allowing them to make his books into a show is about it, he has no real say at this point with what the producers do. Not like they haven't done things that he disagrees with multiple times by now.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 9:20 pm to
That Stannis scene was just horrible. Worst moment of the series by far. It ruined an otherwise good episode.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 9:20 pm to
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What? GRRM has said many times that the show writers do what they want with the show. He hasn't been active for the show since the Purple Wedding



No "what" to it. We get it. You hate everything about the show and it's writers. Guess what? GRRM went over with them where certain characters are supposed to go and felt comfortable enough to bow out writing episodes. You think D&D didn't run this stuff by him? You're awfully naive.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 9:21 pm to
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Not that bad of a father.



He was my ultimate low bar before now, but Stannis has just surpassed him.

I mean, really, after the greyscale scene, they decide to do this with the character? What the frick? Stannis is wholly despicable now and he needs to become a White Walker to where he feels as if his soul is eternally on fire.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116180 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 9:21 pm to
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You need to just walk away and stop posting tonight.


I was obviously being facetious
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74272 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 9:21 pm to
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frickers still want Stannis, frick that guy



Yeah, I wish I didn't see it earlier, but frick Stannis.. frick him
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
77144 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 9:22 pm to
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No "what" to it. We get it. You hate everything about the show and it's writers. Guess what? GRRM went over with them where certain characters are supposed to go and felt comfortable enough to bow out writing episodes. You think D&D didn't run this stuff by him? You're awfully naive.

I guarantee he didn't specifically sign off on them burning Shireen alive.
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