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re: Game of Thrones S4:E5 "First of his Name" A Thread for Book MAESTERS (SPOILERS)

Posted on 5/5/14 at 11:05 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 11:05 pm to
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Wut? I thought Hoster was a good man.



He made Lysa have an unconscious abortion. He would be high up there if it weren't for this, but it was a pretty unspeakably horrible act that fricked up Lysa's mind for life. Hell, it consumed him to his grave, as it was the last thing Lord Hoster remembered before he died, in very truly wronging his daughter.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 11:57 pm to
A littlefinger bastard would have been the antichrist, hoster had no choice
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:01 am to
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A littlefinger bastard would have been the antichrist, hoster had no choice



Well he has one in my opinion:

Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:04 am to
And did anyone else realize that the actress who plays Arya is 17? I was thinking 15. I don't think we have to worry that much about her aging, since I think she's done growing.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:18 am to
Naw, LF would have let it slip by now that sweetrobin is his
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Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:21 am to
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Naw, LF would have let it slip by now that sweetrobin is his



I just don't think LF cares whether or not sweetrobin is his. He'll still have him killed regardless. No way he'd tell Sansa or Sweetrobin he was his. I think the only person that would let that leak would be Lysa. But Lysa did say we could have "another child", which may imply that Robert may be the first instead of the aborted one like you're supposed to think.
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 7:02 am to
Somehow I just can't see Lysa carrying out the duties of a major lord/lady. Like hearing petitions, deciding cases, etc. Or negotiating, planning defense and things like that. Every time they show her its in mostly empty rooms.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 7:43 am to
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And did anyone else realize that the actress who plays Arya is 17? I was thinking 15. I don't think we have to worry that much about her aging, since I think she's done growing.


Meanwhile, it looks like Sansa is ready to try out for the Westeros WNBA.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 7:52 am to
Do you believe the theory that Sweetrobin is Littlefinger's bastard with Lysa? After all, I think he started working for the Crown in 292 AC or so; the timeline is there.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 7:55 am to
No doubt that the abortion screwed up Lysa. Hoster cared more about Cat and Edmure for sure.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 8:50 am to
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Do you believe the theory that Sweetrobin is Littlefinger's bastard with Lysa? After all, I think he started working for the Crown in 292 AC or so; the timeline is there.


It's highly plausible. I highly doubt that LF didn't screw Lysa before getting married to her. I feel sure he had sex with her at least when he persuaded her to kill Jon Arryn. Some days I prescribe to the theory, some days not. I think it would be nice for LF to be a kinslayer, and he toying with the notion at the end of his life that being a kinslayer may have cursed him.
Posted by thatguy1892
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 8:55 am to
I'm in the, Robin is Littlefinger's, party.
Posted by Ash Williams
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 9:20 am to
i dont know, i just think lysa wouldve mentioned it when she was spilling her guts on all the inside info

but its a cool card for martin to play later if he wants
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 9:28 am to
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Truth hurts. Daario is 10X the boss that Jon is


Posted by NIH
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 9:42 am to
It would make sense for LF's kid to grow up a frail bitch.
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 10:27 am to
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Wut? I thought Hoster was a good man.

I never thought of Hoser Tully as a particularly good man. Neutral maybe. He seems pretty typical of the lords of Westeros. Interested in dynastic marriages and action to benefit his house.

He definitely took a hard line with both Lysa and with the Blackfish resulting in both of them being estranged from him for years. He seems to have spoiled Cat and definitely didn't impart any practical sense in her. And in Edmond he raised a pretty danged wishy washy and kind of vain of guy.
Posted by Gugich22
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 10:31 am to
Idk...Jon was losing a fight to a no name drunk from jeeeen alllley that had 2 butter knives while he himself had a great sword...
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 10:33 am to
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I never thought of Hoser Tully as a particularly good man. Neutral maybe. He seems pretty typical of the lords of Westeros. Interested in dynastic marriages and action to benefit his house.

Exactly. Hoster was very good at elevating House Tully. He arranged the marriage for Cat to Brandon/then Ned, Lysa and Jaime (until Cersei fricked it up with making Jaime join the Kingsguard), and Edmure and Arianne (until Doran squashed it because of her secret betrothal to Viserys). Hoster would have had the North, the Westerlands, and Dorne/the South on his side. That's a pretty damn strong alliance if you ask me.

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He definitely took a hard line with both Lysa and with the Blackfish resulting in both of them being estranged from him for years. He seems to have spoiled Cat and definitely didn't impart any practical sense in her. And in Edmure he raised a pretty danged wishy washy and kind of vain of guy.


Agreed. Edmure wasn't really 'trained' well by him to be a Lord of the Riverlands/Riverrun. Edmure would've prospered in peacetime but sucked in wartime (as we all saw by his military decisions and how he handled the Mountain and the mill and how Robb was so pissed about it).
Posted by Clockwatcher68
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 10:33 am to
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Jon got his arse kicked by a drunk dude from flea bottom who wasnt even cool enough to be in the books


Now I read your posts hearing the hound's voice.
Posted by TK421
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 10:51 am to
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Jon was losing a fight to a no name drunk from jeeeen alllley that had 2 butter knives while he himself had a great sword...


That scene really pissed me off. That guy should have been cut in two by Jon early in that fight, but I guess that would be anti-climatic. It really took away some of Jon's badassery

It makes me concerned about another upcoming duel.
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