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re: Game of Thrones S4:E2:"The Lion and the Rose", HODORS ONLY (no book readers)
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:36 am to tylercsbn9
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:36 am to tylercsbn9
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Well that picture makes a pretty strong case grandma was behind it.
But why though? Her granddaughter would've been queen. Seems a little silly to give up that much influence.
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:37 am to Titus Pullo
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Stannis is not the last in Roberts line. Gendry is still alive.
Gendry is a bastard. No trueborn, no throne.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:38 am to Titus Pullo
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Why the frick would she need to go thru that much trouble to smuggle some poison in
Not sure but it's blatantly obvious that's what happened. The writers went WAY out of their way to hit you over the head with clues.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:38 am to Roger Klarvin
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Probably just to give the viewer/reader things to look back on and go "ahhh, makes sense now".
It doesn't make sense though, it requires Olenna to jump through a bunch of hoops for no reason.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:38 am to Jet12
Well, for someone unimportant, two hands of the king were killed for figuring out about him and Robert's other bastards, all of which were killed by Gold Cloaks besides Gendry. Maybe it was just out of spite.
Everyone in the 7 kingdoms knew Joffrey wasn't Robert's eventually, but he still held the throne because of Lannister backing, so blood line is pretty irrelevant anyway. The Lannisters will rule in some fashion until someone takes Kings Landing away.
Everyone in the 7 kingdoms knew Joffrey wasn't Robert's eventually, but he still held the throne because of Lannister backing, so blood line is pretty irrelevant anyway. The Lannisters will rule in some fashion until someone takes Kings Landing away.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:39 am to wish i was tebow
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Yeah Gendry has no claim. Stannis has the best claim if you go with the robert thought. but just remember Dany has as a good a claim or better than anyone
Legit claim in Westeros is the one with the biggest army/support. Bloodlines only matter if you can back it up with arms, imo.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:40 am to Stonehog
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That theory makes zero sense, Grandma could have just worn the necklace herself. Then she wouldn't have to worry about Sansa wearing it on the wedding day and she wouldn't have to remove a stone from it while it's around her neck.
She also wouldn't be wearing the murder weapon if anyone noticed a poison diamond along the way and noticed that Granny just happened to be missing a diamond from her necklace that looked a whole lot like the one they found. Fool gives poison necklace to Sansa because he knows she'll wear it. Granny takes poison diamond without Sansa noticing so if anyone notices the poison diamond, it's on Sansa, not the Tyrells. Fool comes back to rescue the doe-eyed unsuspecting patsy after the deed is done.
Good as any theory we've got on who made Joffrey bleed for us.
Of course, I guess it could have just been a wardrobe malfunction that continuity just failed to notice.
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 12:44 am
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:41 am to Stonehog
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That theory makes zero sense, Grandma could have just worn the necklace herself. Then she wouldn't have to worry about Sansa wearing it on the wedding day and she wouldn't have to remove a stone from it while it's around her neck.
Well, had she worn the necklace herself someone could have noticed it was mossing a stone. With the fool getting Sansa out, no evidence left at the scene.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:42 am to Roger Klarvin
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Not sure but it's blatantly obvious that's what happened. The writers went WAY out of their way to hit you over the head with clues.
No it's not. You just really want it to be.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:42 am to DoUrden
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Legit claim in Westeros is the one with the biggest army/support.
While I agree with your logic thats not claim. Thats who is gonna get it.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:43 am to TigerstuckinMS
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a poison diamond
Take a step back and think about how ridiculous that sounds.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:44 am to Stonehog
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It doesn't make sense though, it requires Olenna to jump through a bunch of hoops for no reason.
It removes possible blame if things go wrong or if someone notices the half dissolved poison bead in his cup. They either blame Sansa or get her out if it goes as they expect it to and remove the evidence.
Olenna likely isn't worried about herself, but she knows if she were caught Margery is fricked.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:45 am to TigerstuckinMS
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Granny just happened to be missing a diamond from her necklace that looked a whole lot like the one they found
How would they know if they found a poison diamond? If you found a big diamond on the ground, you wouldn't eat it.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:45 am to Roger Klarvin
It didn't have to be on a necklace. It could have been hidden on her person. Your theory may be correct. But just seems like a lot of extra trouble when the grandmother could have just smuggled the poison in herself.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:46 am to Stonehog
could have been something shaped like a diamond that disolves in the wine
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:46 am to Titus Pullo
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Well, for someone unimportant, two hands of the king were killed for figuring out about him and Robert's other bastards, all of which were killed by Gold Cloaks besides Gendry. Maybe it was just out of spite.
The thing about the bastards was more about establishing that Baratheons pretty much exclusively have dark-haired children, so Joffrey couldn't be one.
The king's other bastards were killed by order of Joffrey, because Joffrey.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:46 am to Stonehog
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a poison diamond
Take a step back and think about how ridiculous that sounds.
Think less of a literal poisonous diamond. Vial of poison shaped like a diamond is more what I'm thinking.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:46 am to The_Joker
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No it's not. You just really want it to be.
Olenna's line after fiddling with Sansa's necklace was the biggest "LOOK HERE STUPID" line in the whole series thus far.
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 12:47 am
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:47 am to Jet12
Yeah that was more of fricking over the Lanisters I think
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:48 am to Titus Pullo
Do y'all think it was the pie or the wine? Made it look like the pie did him in, that would throw out the necklace theory.
Of course it could have just been dry pie, and then he drank the poison wine, which was poisoned after he cut the pie.
Of course it could have just been dry pie, and then he drank the poison wine, which was poisoned after he cut the pie.
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