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re: Game of Thrones S4:E2:"The Lion and the Rose", HODORS ONLY (no book readers)
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:59 am to Roger Klarvin
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:59 am to Roger Klarvin
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Additionally, like I said before, the fool giving Sansa that necklace last week was super random for this show. It just seemed out of place. This gives it meaning.
Yep. Since they included that in the "Previously On GoT" bit at the start of the episode, I guess it had to be important for something later on?
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:59 am to xXLSUXx
Tywin may have been involved. He sure did want Jamie to take a leave from the Kings Guard last week.
I still say Red Witch's leeches FTW!
I still say Red Witch's leeches FTW!
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:59 am to The_Joker
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Lets say for a minute she DOES want to poison Joffrey with a poisoned diamond. Why give the necklace to the guy to give to Sansa if you're still going to end up putting the poison in YOURSELF? Just take the diamond off before the wedding, leave 2 liabilities (Dontos and Sansa) out of it and keep the diamond in your fricking pocket. Your scenario makes absolutely no sense.
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:01 am to Roger Klarvin
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Those medieval dresses didnt have pockets
You have officially jumped the shark.
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and even if they did I'm sure the Kingsguard would be searching anyone that close to the king.
But even if they found a loose diamond on her that wouldn't be out of the ordinary.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:01 am to Jet12
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Yep. Since they included that in the "Previously On GoT" bit at the start of the episode, I guess it had to be important for something later on?
Yep, no reason to show that in the "last week on GOT" intro otherwise.
It isn't without holes, but its clearly what the writers have implied.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:02 am to Roger Klarvin
They weren't boarding a fricking plane.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:03 am to Roger Klarvin
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It isn't without holes
It's actually one giant hole.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:03 am to Titus Pullo
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Tywin may have been involved.
That's a big gamble given that he already is pretty much running Westeros and the status quo is pretty beneficial to him.
Plus, he is a bigtime family over all else thing. Killing his own grandson doesn't seem like his MO.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:04 am to Roger Klarvin
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It isn't without holes, but its clearly what the writers have implied.
Yep. Naturally there's some stuff we just won't know more details about (who did it and why, etc.) until later episodes. Maybe at least the next episode could give more clarity on what Lady Olenna says. From the preview, she didn't seem too upset.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:05 am to Stonehog
Well, that was surprising. I only wish Joffrey had suffered more.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:06 am to Stonehog
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It's actually one giant hole.
You have to do a lot more to explain away all the hints than I have to do to explain the holes in the theory.
You have to explain the necklace scenes last week (and why they were included in the intro this week for reminder), the still shot of the necklace with the missing diamond, Olenna's fiddling with the necklace and her line about killing someone at a wedding, etc.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:07 am to Roger Klarvin
Make sense if she was trying to frame Sansa, but the fool would have had to be in on it, why is he trying to get Sansa to leave then?
Maergery says "I would have been queen" to her in the preview for episode 3, so I don't think she knew.
Plenty of people had it in for Joffrey, not sure what grandma's motive could be.
Maergery says "I would have been queen" to her in the preview for episode 3, so I don't think she knew.
Plenty of people had it in for Joffrey, not sure what grandma's motive could be.
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:08 am to Jet12
Could be misdirection....
They WANT us to think it had something to do with the necklace.
Too many obvious players IMO.
They WANT us to think it had something to do with the necklace.
Too many obvious players IMO.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:09 am to 2close2Gainesville
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Maergery says "I would have been queen" to her in the preview for episode 3, so I don't think she knew.
Even if she did, she would've highly opposed it. Why kill the king if you're the one who wants to be queen?
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:09 am to xXLSUXx
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They WANT us to think it had something to do with the necklace.
Too many obvious players IMO.
Yep. We just don't have enough info yet. Next week should clear things up a little bit more, with Tyrion locked up and trying to figure out who framed him (per the preview).
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:10 am to Roger Klarvin
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You have to do a lot more to explain away all the hints than I have to do to explain the holes in the theory.
Not even close man.
You can't explain why Olenna wouldn't just wear the necklace herself. Olenna has always shown an affinity for Sansa, your theory requires her to make Sansa a patsy.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:11 am to Jet12
That's the thing with someone so hated being murdered.
There are a lot of suspects.
There are a lot of suspects.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:12 am to xXLSUXx
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They WANT us to think it had something to do with the necklace.
That's fine, my whole point is that CLEARLY the intention is to make us think it was Olenna with the necklace. Whether or not it actually is remains to be seen, but it is so obviously the implication.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:14 am to Roger Klarvin
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They WANT us to think it had something to do with the necklace.
That's fine, my whole point is that CLEARLY the intention is to make us think it was Olenna with the necklace. Whether or not it actually is remains to be seen, but it is so obviously the implication.
Eh, I didn't even notice all that until I watched the episode again. People are saying it's "so obvious", when it wasn't really at first.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:14 am to 2close2Gainesville
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not sure what grandma's motive could be
Through Sansa, and later Margery, she has learned the depths of his depravity. Lots of reasons to want him dead, least of which not being her granddaughter's future. Maybe not everyone thinks being queen is worth that.
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