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re: Game of Thrones S4E10 "The Children" Maesters thread SPOILERS!!!

Posted on 6/16/14 at 10:58 am to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 10:58 am to
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And finally one reason, in case you didn’t notice, a lot happens this season

right. throwing stoneheart into this season, at the end no less, would of overshadowed a lot.

but people, myself included, didn't think about that prior to the finale
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:00 am to
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Pretty much every Hodor says they loved last night's episode.

of course they would. they don't know any difference
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:01 am to
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so that sounds like they might write her out completely...


Yeah, that's the impression I'm getting as well.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:03 am to
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so that sounds like they might write her out completely...

you missed quoting this part...
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It just didn’t end up being a part of what was going to happen this season.

which makes it sound like it will be another season
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:04 am to
I never did think that the Lady Stoneheart bit amounted to much other than the Brienne/Jiamie stuff so if they find another way to do that I'd be fine with writing her out.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:04 am to
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of course they would. they don't know any difference


Honestly, it's still a top 10 episode from me. If it had managed to accurately portray Tywin's demise and Stoneheart, it would have probably been the best. Tywin's death was still a great scene, but not bringing up Tysha I think is just a pure frick-up from D&D's perspective and never even considered that they wouldn't have that in there.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:05 am to
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you missed quoting this part...


I know...

but the line that I quoted made it seem like they didn't really consider LSH to be a big part of the story and that it might be too much of a hassle
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:06 am to
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Honestly, it's still a top 10 episode from me.

same here

but it definitely could of been a lot better
This post was edited on 6/16/14 at 11:08 am
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:07 am to
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but not bringing up Tysha I think is just a pure frick-up from D&D's perspective and never even considered that they wouldn't have that in there.


I could have told you that they were going to replace Tysha with Shae before the episode

no idea why you thought they would bring up Tysha since the show didn't build up the Tysha story enough

hodors saw how much Tyrion cared for Shae for 3 seasons, they were more connected to Tyrion/Shae

it just made more sense on the show
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:11 am to
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no idea why you thought they would bring up Tysha since the show didn't build up the Tysha story enough


They've still mentioned her like twice every season, and LF could have brought it up to Sansa and Tyrion to Jaime again. I'd like to have more faith in the Hodors to remember it than that. Plus couldn't the recap cover that pretty well?
Posted by davesdawgs
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:13 am to
Just watched the season finale. Excellent indeed!! Again there were departures from the books but well done none the less. The fight between The Hound and Brienne added some much needed action to Brienne's story-line. Jon burning Ygritte's body was moving. The end for Jojen was sad but logical. Cersei's confession to Tywin also made sense considering her defiant nature. Varys spontaneously deciding to travel with Tyrion was a bit odd but apparently Varys did not anticipate Tyrion killing his father. Arya sailing off to Bravos was a fit and fine ending to the season.

Even after having read all the books, I have to say that the GoT TV series is easily the most engaging and interesting show I have watched. Overall the deviations from the books have been well executed and a net positive for the series.
This post was edited on 6/16/14 at 11:23 am
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:15 am to
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They've still mentioned her like twice every season, and LF could have brought it up to Sansa and Tyrion to Jaime again. I'd like to have more faith in the Hodors to remember it than that. Plus couldn't the recap cover that pretty well?



but we were spared from "where do whores go" for the rest of the series. worth it imo
Posted by Gugich22
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:20 am to
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Even after having read all the books, I have to say that the GoT TV series is easily the most engaging and interesting show I have watched. Overall the deviations from the books have been well execution and a net positive for the series.


Yep
Posted by JumpingTheShark
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:21 am to
the episode was great but could have been better. regardless of what happened in the books, LSH would have been such a good cliff hanger. two things I would have changed would be

1) having Stannis arrive at the end of episode 9 instead of the beginning of episode 10 and

2) ending with lady stoneheart on 10

If Vince Gilligan was writing this show, he would have done it that way I am convinced. Regardless, I love the show and I am actually a fan of the way the show is tying up some seemingly pointless loose ends from the book and tweaking some things (i.e. Brienne and the Hound).

Fat arse needs to write faster.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:28 am to
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but we were spared from "where do whores go" for the rest of the series. worth it imo


Does Tyrion have to ask that? No, so just omit that part.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:41 am to
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Martin is a bad writer; as in, every sentence I've read of his is pretty offensive to good taste. The writers on the show improve his style immensely...and in fact most of the great dialogue in the show is not in the books (from what I understand).


wtf?
Posted by hiltacular
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:51 am to
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the episode was great but could have been better. regardless of what happened in the books, LSH would have been such a good cliff hanger. two things I would have changed would be


I personally think LSH was a terrible decision by GRRM. I would be all for the TV show completely leaving her out.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:52 am to
But we also didn't get "She's been fricking Lancel, Osmund Kettleblack, and Moonboy for all I know."

If we don't meet Kevan in S5E1 I'm going to be pissed.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:53 am to


Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 12:00 pm to
I think LSH is pretty badass part of the books. To leave her out would cause trouble in Brianne, Jamie and pods stories. Since we are left with her about to hang Brianne and Pod in AFFC

I understand not every little thing in the books can make the show but at the same time they create these lame pointless scenes like Missandei and Grey Worm.

And it's not just that. The scenes that they do go with from the books they have completely fricked up on the show. A perfect example was Tyrion killing Tywin last night. Why change that from the books? When it's moments like that in the books that is what makes this series so great
This post was edited on 6/16/14 at 12:01 pm
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